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Please do Scottish self-id consultation (even if not Scottish)

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okMaybeIAmATERF · 25/01/2018 12:49

Here's the URL: please do the consultation. (I think this has been posted before, but it bears repeating.)
consult.gov.scot/family-law/review-of-the-gender-recognition-act-2004/
To note:

  1. At the end, you will be asked whether you are resident in Scotland, the rest of the UK, or elsewhere - i.e. you don't have to be in Scotland, though obviously it's more important to be heard if you are.
  2. You will also be asked whether you want your response published with your name, without your name, or not at all - if that makes a difference to how you write your answers, it might be helpful to know this up front. Closes on March 1st, but don't wait till then!
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Jaggythistle · 01/03/2018 17:31

Although that might be because i saved it earlier this week to go back to it.

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Jaggythistle · 01/03/2018 17:19

Done. It's still accepting responses now.

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 01/03/2018 17:09

Done- talk about leaving it til the last minute!

Wobbleslikeaweeble · 01/03/2018 16:42

Done - just made it - phew! 😥

letsgetserious · 01/03/2018 15:30

Done!

Nikitasol · 01/03/2018 15:16

Completed.

Horrible form, badly worded, badly put together. Frustrating all round. And depressing too.

Ereshkigal · 01/03/2018 13:45

I couldn't remember if I had updated the thread. I already had! Only did it once, despite the fact that it's ridiculously open to abuse. As someone else said if they do have another consultation for England we must push for it not just to be an internet survey like this.

Ereshkigal · 01/03/2018 13:40

Done!

Lazylouse · 01/03/2018 13:25

Done. Not sure how well but at least another voice suggesting caution.

Nikitasol · 01/03/2018 12:33

Deadline for consultation about the GRA in Scotland is 1st March. Anyone around the country can complete this however. Please do!

consult.gov.scot/family-law/review-of-the-gender-recognition-act-2004/

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 01/03/2018 10:45

Also you can use it in a way that allows you to put your point across - there's lots of comment boxes including one at the end where you can give your thoughts. You don't have to be a prisoner to the awful design of the survey and you can also comment on that at the end.

Popchyk · 01/03/2018 10:11

If you don't have time to add any comments to the survey, that's fine. Just answer Yes/No/Don't Know to the questions.

Should be able to do it very quickly then.

Otherwise this link fairplayforwomen.com/scotland/ is really handy if you do want to put comments.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 01/03/2018 09:53

Bump again.
Any questions, the hivemind's something to behold in here!

NoqontroI · 28/02/2018 23:19

Done

RaininSummer · 28/02/2018 23:17

Done.

Bumblebzz · 28/02/2018 23:00

Done

cremedelashite · 28/02/2018 22:45

Done

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 28/02/2018 22:44

Bump

coleridge · 28/02/2018 18:28

Already filled this in but a bit regretful that I didn't talk more about specific ramifications e.g. sport, prisons, old ladies desperately wanting female carers and being cruelly gaslighted that their male carer is really female, etc.

It's the gaslighting, especially of vulnerable people, that really gets me angry. If anyone has yet to fill it in, please mention a few of these examples and how self-ID would mean you would be forced to contend with female-identified males in these positions? Thanks.

shetheyhim · 28/02/2018 18:25

Done.

Not sure I answered 'right'. All very confusing but I made the most of the comment boxes to explain my overall reservations so that should come across loud and clear.

Lokisglowstickofdestiny · 28/02/2018 18:04

Completed this, glad I did as I had never considered spouse agreement and grounds for divorce, it hadn't occurred to me.

Whinberry · 28/02/2018 18:01

My job for this evening though the SNP vote en masse and pander to the greens to get a majority so I don't have much faith in the process.

All Scottish Government consultations are biased and stuffed with leading questions. Last year there was an education consultation where the SNP education minister (John Swinney) was forced to point out that several thousand people and organisations, including more than 500 teaching professionals, had got the answers wrong so they were going ahead anyway...

CuriousaboutSamphire · 28/02/2018 17:49

I'm glad it wasn't just me who noticed them... Reluctant. I was just a tad angry by about page 4... told them exactly why in the feedback pages Smile

ReluctantCamper · 28/02/2018 17:43

Yes I really struggled with should we recognise non binary people? I ended up saying why the hell not? If you're going to accept gender in law why not accept all 71 Facebook genders?

I don't think it was my finest work but I did struggle with the confirmation bias in the questions.

womanhuman · 28/02/2018 17:38

Just done it.

My opening response was gender is a crock and not the gov’s business and sex is unchangeable so they know where I stand from the off. 😀

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