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Women come last in Labour's deranged victim hierarchy - Rod Liddle in The Spectator

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AttillaThePun · 25/01/2018 08:01

No punches pulled (but no names named either, probably sensible):

www.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/women-come-last-in-labours-deranged-victim-hierarchy/

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LapdanceShoeshine · 27/01/2018 17:43

I’m tempted to sign up for the 3 month thing, but can someone explain these figures to me please?

“3 months for the price of 1” but then “£6 a week”? Confused

Women come last in Labour's deranged victim hierarchy - Rod Liddle in The Spectator
Women come last in Labour's deranged victim hierarchy - Rod Liddle in The Spectator
Justabunchofcunts · 27/01/2018 17:38

TheNerevarine There is a £3 for 3 months Times subscription intro offer on at the moment if you are thinking about it.

TheNerevarine · 27/01/2018 17:35

Am seriously considering subscribing to the Times as well after buying it today. Great review in there of a book about the history of the suffragettes which I fully intend to read when it’s out.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 27/01/2018 12:54

I googled 'will my penis shrink hrt trans' and then I wished I hadn't.

www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/2jbgjn/whats_going_to_happen_to_my_penis_during_hrt/

WHY don't people realise this is a fucking fetish for many?

BeyondWitchbitchterf · 27/01/2018 12:39

They aren't, no medical treatment is required legally.

TheNerevarine · 27/01/2018 12:21

The comments on that Times article are interesting, but there seems to be some confusion about the requirements for a GRC:

'Legal recognition does not require a vagina but the level of hormones and qualification period make the penis small and non functioning permanently.'

I thought hormones weren't actually required?

Popchyk · 27/01/2018 11:44

Great comments under that article.

anonymice · 27/01/2018 11:30

Oh and Wes Streeting doesn't condone the 'tactics'? That's rather different to the stance he took on Twitter....

anonymice · 27/01/2018 11:29

The article show quite clearly how disingenuous Lily Madigan has been. Flaps I was stupid to criticise the choice of paper and needed to sort myself out. The Times is doing sterling journalism actually reporting FACTS.

AlllWomenShortbreads · 27/01/2018 02:50

That Private Eye graphic nails it brilliantly. Grin
Great work getting this written and talked about Cis

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 27/01/2018 01:18

Thanks flaps

flapsDentata · 27/01/2018 01:12

Exactly cunts

The clamour for free and consumable has really driven down journalism. I wince at these Guardian lot, apart from the couple of good ones they have like Cohen et al. The Times isn’t a luxury, it’s a necessary. I’m over boycotting things, it’s so kneejerk, if no else is providing, I’ll throw my money at Murdock. Or Mr T. I don’t mind.

Justabunchofcunts · 27/01/2018 01:07

Yes, Times piece is excellent. I am taking out a subscription with them. They have done fantastic work covering the issues in a balanced way. Reminds me why good journalism is worth paying for.

flapsDentata · 27/01/2018 00:49

Check your inbox xx

PracticallyTerfectInEveryWay · 27/01/2018 00:48

Love the transgender Barbie and Ken! Grin

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 27/01/2018 00:44

Has anyone got a share token link they can post?

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 27/01/2018 00:41

I have.

It is.

Am rehearsing my speech in case they come knocking on my door!

Hope the buggers do!

flapsDentata · 27/01/2018 00:29

Welcome sweetheart. 💋 Seen the Times piece just published? I said it would snowball. It’s a great piece.

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 27/01/2018 00:25

I meant thank you Kiss for facillitating this

flapsDentata · 27/01/2018 00:22

Labour suspends activist in transgender row

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/784edb8a-02e1-11e8-9de1-e6776d524215

Hit the Times now.

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 27/01/2018 00:17

Did not intend strikethrough Blush

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 27/01/2018 00:15

Sorry to hark back but it's taken me a while to read the thread.

I really don't like Rod Liddle.

I think his article in the Spectator was very good, will help a lot and just maybe will open the floodgates to sanity.

So many comments have resonated but the one that really stuck was that if we want everyone to agree with us on this, we are going to have to accept standing next to some people who have other views that we find abhorrent.

(Maybe with that small chink of convergence we could influence those other views)

thank you Kiss for facillitating this FlowersWine

BeyondWitchbitchterf · 26/01/2018 21:47

I have a friend who's a proper 90's ladette, but she loves talking about ladybrains Grin

nauticant · 26/01/2018 21:16

The last time I discussed this in real life BeyondWitchbitchterf I mentioned lady brain to my friend, who is a never-discuss-any-politics-with-me-ever type person, and, when she had stopped pissing herself laughing, she'd been hooked into discussing this.

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