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Labour against transphobia group - thread 2

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QuentinSummers · 24/01/2018 21:14

Follow on from
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3144285-Labour-Against-Transphobia-Facebook-group?msgid=75082467#75082467

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therealposieparker · 25/01/2018 09:42

This is going to get much much worse. You will find that women in positions of power in Labour refuse to speak up. There is a huge culture of fear.

Action is required.

AreYouOrHaveYouEverBeenATERF · 25/01/2018 09:39

Interesting - I've suspected for a while that Momentum is harbouring a fair bit of left wing misogyny. I find the left wing misogyny is the hardest to counter - you know - because they're so worthy in every other way. Eg Ralf Little's little dance-on-dance-off-again last week.

A friend of mine stopped going to her Momentum meetings, because she said it was full of very vocal men telling the women what to do - and she got fed up with it.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 25/01/2018 09:39

Brilliant work Hammer

ATeardropExplodes · 25/01/2018 09:36

Well done Hammer. You rock.

Will be namechanging laters.

Badweekjustgotworse · 25/01/2018 09:35

Great article, I don’t have a subscription to the spectator so any see the comments, what the general response?

NettleTea · 25/01/2018 09:30

ahh, in my CLP is it definately Momentum driven. But I do know that across the board it is not

pamish · 25/01/2018 09:25

It's a shame he focuses on Momemtum. This is not a Momentum thing. We're getting the same in Haringey where a real cross-party grouping just deselected a load of councillors because of one key housing/planning issue, and it's being sold by the lazy press as done by Momentum. No, it was a coalition. So is this.

MiniTheMinx · 25/01/2018 09:22

I have cancelled my Labour party membership.

NettleTea · 25/01/2018 09:17

Ahh yes I was just coming on to post that Spectator link.

EElisavetaOfBelsornia · 25/01/2018 09:15

That is a great article. Massive cudos to @Hammerofthetwat, you are a total hero.

UpstartCrow · 25/01/2018 09:04

Rod Liddle in The Spectator;
www.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/women-come-last-in-labours-deranged-victim-hierarchy/

Thank you, Rod.

KissMaCis · 25/01/2018 09:02

www.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/women-come-last-in-labours-deranged-victim-hierarchy/

Help if I added the bloody link.

UpstartCrow · 25/01/2018 09:01

Goldmonday

Its not unreasonable, we're in this for the long haul. The Tories have had 2 female Prime Ministers; Labour haven't had a single female leader.
How are women supposed to 'achieve' 50% female MP's if we don't make a stand? Are we represented at all if all the female MP's are biological men?

KissMaCis · 25/01/2018 09:01

Morning ladies. Or whatever we are identifying as today. Anyone had a look at The Spectator this morning? I have a subs so if people want a copy of Rod Liddle’s piece I can send them a grab. Don’t know rules about posting stuff.

OnTheList · 25/01/2018 08:52

It was unanimously agreed that self-ID is wrong and that doxing, threats etc. should be a police matter. The more experienced members also recommended reporting the List to the members’ hotline, which I’ll investigate.

Good news. I do think near everyone would be against self-ID if they thought properly about it just a little bit.

I bet Tara argues that they were scared of Maria in some way, or uses the TRA interpretation of the video and says Maria attacked him Hmm I am sure the police can see thats bollocks. I wonder if he will try the 'literal violence' thing too. 'She looked at me with a raised eyebrow, it was like being stabbed so I retaliated'

thebewilderness · 25/01/2018 06:46

I think it will depend on whether this is a wake up call for Labour and they sort this out properly.

Goldmonday · 25/01/2018 06:45

Quite late to the party!!!! Is it totally unreasonable that I am considering no longer voting for labour over this? Have always seen them as the lesser of evils, but now am not sure

AngryAttackKittens · 25/01/2018 06:42

Is threatening to burn down the court contempt of court, legally speaking? I assume we're about to find out.

thebewilderness · 25/01/2018 06:32

The more angry trans identified males stand outside the court and chant "burn it down" the way they did while the women were meeting the better.

AngryAttackKittens · 25/01/2018 05:43

You know the cliche about a picture being worth a thousand words? I hope the more, um, colorful looking TIMs do turn up and protest.

Tara is the one in the gaudy leggings.

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 25/01/2018 05:42

Tara is the skinny one in the camo hoody I think. Not the tall man with the dark ponytail.

Cwenthryth · 25/01/2018 05:40

Hello..... I don’t think I posted on the first thread as it was so fast moving I was just catching up the whole time, and I’m not a Labour Party member. Fantastic news that the attacker at Speaker’s Corner has been charged. I expect there will be protests outside the hearing - is anyone in touch with Maria/her supporters to join the ‘End Violence Against Women’ side?

PocketCoffeeEspresso · 25/01/2018 05:35

The video of the attack, where he then turns to the two women (from his side) who seemed to be trying to suggest he stopped being so aggressive was pure threatening male - "don't you dare try to tell me what to do or it's your turn next" - the looming posture etc.

No-one watching that video can be under any illusion what his intentions were, and who was the aggressor.

Yes.. namechange time.. tapps chin thoughtfully..

CisterSledge · 25/01/2018 05:23

Evening all. Or morning.

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