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Were you a Labour Party member who has left due to GRA issues and self ID

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WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 23/01/2018 19:24

Just that question really. I was and I finally left following the appointment of Lily Madigan as Women's Officer. I'd really like to know the number of other people who have done the same.

Have you left, or are considering leaving due to similar concerns?

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flapsDentata · 26/01/2018 21:49

Boobs, you won’t be able to change anything. I was a member for ten years, grieved so hard. Heartbroken when I left 2015. Now I feel great. My vote is up for grabs, you are the kingmaker. We decide elections. Tribalism never serves anyone. Make the buggers work for your vote.

Thegirlinthefireplace · 26/01/2018 21:25

P.s. My experience was that no one appeared to give a shit that I had left or why.

Thegirlinthefireplace · 26/01/2018 21:24

Unfortunately I left about 6 months ago over Brexit. I wish I'd held out a few months so I could leave over this.

ICanTuckMyBoobsInMyPockets · 26/01/2018 21:22

Bear with me, while I try to explain myself....

I am actually thinking of joining because of this whole mess.

Isn't it better to be on the inside and try and change things from there?

What if some sort of vote is held, and all the people against it have left. What do we do then?

Someone was recruiting for Labour in my town a few weeks before Christmas, and I told him I wanted to sign up but their stance on the GRA was the only thing stopping me. He knew nothing about it but wanted me to join so I could speak to others seeing as I obviously felt so passionately.

Just a ruse to get me in? Or genuine?

nolurkynolighty · 26/01/2018 20:33

yup. joined because thought corbyn offered hope to the most vulnerable.

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 26/01/2018 20:18

DrSringz my experience and position mirrors yours very closely, I was hopeful about JC and even joined Momentum. I've left Momentum too over the GRA issue.

I'm totally homeless politically and to not vote goes against my family and political principles.

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DamnDeDoubtanceIsSpartacus · 26/01/2018 19:58

I left last week, emailed my reasons and never heard back. I am also politically homeless. Sad

DrStringzDulcimer · 26/01/2018 19:05

I have been a Labour voter since the age of 18, and a member for several years.

I have left over the GRA and the AWS.

Unlike many on this thread, I was hopeful about Corbyn. I have friends who are his constituents and who have always been very happy with him as a constituency MP. I voted for him in both leadership elections. I thought it might be a chance to move the Overton Window, even though I've never really believed he could be PM. I do still support the Labour manifesto (as was). DP even joined Momentum, so it's not all 22-year-old SJWs and 'brainwashed hysterics'!

But first Brexit, now this. It's not that I didn't know he was a eurosceptic, btw. But this is the last straw. I cannot support a party who so blatantly don't give a flying fuck about me or my concerns.

I feel really, really sad about it. I have absolutely no-one to vote for now. I have been disenfranchised by my own party.

NeganLovesLucille · 26/01/2018 18:53

cancelled my membership over their ridiculous stand on self idienifying and the madigan fiasco.

CAAKE · 26/01/2018 18:50

And yes, I'm currently homeless.

CAAKE · 26/01/2018 18:50

I left after Lily Madigan was appointed. I wrote a letter and sent copies to our CLP and the main party. I had an identikit response from the party, but I did have a very nice email exchange with a woman in our local office where I sent her some articles and the links to some MN threads and she later thanked me very much for peak transing her 😁

Fekko · 26/01/2018 18:48

Homeless is fine - you can’t hitch the star to a party you can’t believe in. Things will change.

Electraschild · 26/01/2018 18:42

Having always been a Labour voter, I joined before the '97 election, left over Iraq and rejoined in 2010. Now considering leaving again but I will be another who is politically homeless, if/when I do.

blackberryfairy · 26/01/2018 18:06

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purpleanorak · 26/01/2018 17:32

Tobee - I rejoined after letting my membership lapse for the same reason (then wasn’t even allowed to vote!). Totally agree with all of your points. It is very sad - I feel politically “homeless” and unrepresented by any party at the moment. I just think Labour is too far gone at the moment for me to be able to make any impact as a member.

flapsDentata · 26/01/2018 17:24

Agreed Tobee. I can tell you things about Corbyn and his dodgy pals that would make your head bleed.

tobee · 26/01/2018 17:22

I, too, left after Iraq. Rejoined to get Corbyn out at the second leadership election. That worked well. Appalled by so many things under this regime and the brainwashed hysterics who follow. At the moment I'm keeping my membership in the forlorn hope of helping with the balance of wings of the party and to have a vote in any leadership ballot that occurs in the future. Lol. Was hoping the party would split as I couldn't see any other way forward. I fully believe the leadership and momentum are far worse than we yet know.

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 26/01/2018 16:55

Interesting piece Whatnext. Thanks for sharing.

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Whatnextxx · 26/01/2018 16:41

Perhaps a little look at this hard hitting piece might help former Labour supporters gain some idea about what other poeple on the other side of the fence think: www.conservativewoman.co.uk/lefts-transgender-obsession-no-laughing-matter/?utm_content=buffercd6ec&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

ShotsFired · 26/01/2018 16:35

@BarrackerBarmer
I wish someone with technical skills could devise an incredibly simple website. One where you literally just click a button to register your support for women being recognised by sex not gender.
No identifying data collected.
Just a tally of numbers.
"People who want recognition of sex not gender."
No comments section.

Typeforms could do this. I just mocked this one up. The only qualifier it asks for is the date (that was the only option that didn't offer a choice of answer)

However am unwilling to use this publicly as its linked to my gmail/google account and who knows what the TRAs could dig up on that. But if someone has an anonymous account...?

Were you a Labour Party member who has left due to GRA issues and self ID
KissMaCis · 26/01/2018 16:16

Left over party antisemitism and the abuse of party moderates. If it’s not a broad church, it’s not for me.

purpleanorak · 26/01/2018 16:15

I left last year, partly because of these issues and partly because of the utterly ineffective opposition regarding Brexit.

I haven’t told them why I left because I need to be cautious given my job. I would tell Labour anonymously if I could (or directly if I were not now frightened of somebody getting hold of that information and trying to “out” me as transphobic). I feel cowardly for not speaking up in public, but I just have too much to lose.

CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger · 26/01/2018 15:57

I left 2 days ago. Not a sniff of a response to my email to my CLP - not that that surprises me.

Lovelyusername · 26/01/2018 15:51

Lol
Sob

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There were 17 candidates. And 17 of them were men. So there you are, girls — meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Except that sometimes, beneath the hipster beard, he’s wearing a nice frock.

blackberryfairy · 23/01/2018 22:57

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