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This should bring a few more to peak trans

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/01/2018 16:31

There are no words. What a plonker.

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BelligerentGardenPixies · 21/01/2018 23:06

I don't wear make-up but I occasionally dye my eyelashes, where does this leave me on the man/women scale?

I don't dye my greying hair but it is quite long soooo... Maaawooomaa... No! Don't know.

I don't have high heels but my walking shoes have a bit of purple trim on them so a teeny bit of a female perhaps? Probably mostly a man though.

I don't own a bonafide dress but I do have some quite long tunic style tops, one of which has some flowery applique so defo a woman when wearing that one... the others, not so sure.

Wow! Sex identification = very, very difficult. Who knew?!

cafeaulaitpourvous · 21/01/2018 21:00

Yes I check my menopausal privilege every fucking day

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 21/01/2018 20:30

Can you ask mn to pop a trigger warning on that post thermostat It's literal violence to mention the m word. TIMs have had the menopause denied to them through absolutely no fault of their own.

Thermostatpolice · 21/01/2018 20:06

I painted a bedroom and built a desk today. Wearing overalls and trainers. And yet it didn't alleviate any peri menopausal symptoms at all. Don't get it.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 21/01/2018 19:53

Except that it's rendered us men rather than masculine of course...

Oops. Good point. Good news! No washing up for me tonight. I don't 'see' mess.

thebewilderness · 21/01/2018 19:24

I resent the hell out of being dismissed as a costume and performance men sometimes choose to use.
We struggled to be viewed as people. We see ourselves as people. Men can no longer use mad science to prove we are subhuman vessels for their seed, or the equivalent of farm animals, so now they argue this.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 21/01/2018 19:10

...and tada! You're no longer a boring middle class couple. You're excitingly non-binary and the footstool indicates that you may even be a lesbian. Except you're a man. But that doesn't matter anymore. You go girl! 👄

CigarsofthePharoahs · 21/01/2018 19:06

I was a woman yesterday evening. DH and I went out for our anniversary so I thought I'd make the effort.
As for today, I'm slobbing about in leggings and a comfy jumper. DH did lunch, I'm cooking dinner and he's setting the table. He also had a nice time at IKEA choosing a new footstool.
I always assumed this made us boringly middle class. Now I'm mostly male, he's part female and…
Errrr…

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 21/01/2018 18:45

I was a woman at least occasionally until I had children. Now I can't really be arsed. How odd that pregnancy, giving birth and breastfeeding have rendered me masculine.

^This Grin

Except that it's rendered us men rather than masculine of course...

SimonBridges · 21/01/2018 17:47

I bought a bra and a dress today. I wore make up but trousers and a jumper with trainers. I’m menstruating. So male or female. What do you think? Which bit of my description gives it away?

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 21/01/2018 16:22

I was a woman at least occasionally until I had children. Now I can't really be arsed. How odd that pregnancy, giving birth and breastfeeding have rendered me masculine.

InfiniteCurve · 21/01/2018 16:05

It makes me both angry and upset.
I've never found the expectations placed on me as someone born female in our society easy.
I don't do dresses,hate make up and especially as a child what I liked doing was reading,making airfix modules and fixing my bike.
My " easiest " time was when my DC were babies/ toddlers,as pregnancy and breastfeeding is kind of undeniably a woman thing.Or was.
But no,it seems not.I get to the point where I'm happy that I'm a woman with a particular set of interests and now it's right back to the old stereotypes.
I'm not male,I have never wanted to be a man,and I don't consider myself gender fluid or anything else - I'm a woman but not keen on femininity.
Why I now have to listen to people telling me that doing feminity is the bit that matters?
SadSadSadAngryAngryAngry

SonicBoomBoom · 21/01/2018 15:57

I'm a woman. Hurrah. I don't tend towards dresses, but did wear one on my wedding day. I wear heels and make up, so I pass.

My poor stitched-together-again vagina is relieved. It was starting to feel it had been conned.

Ekphrasis · 21/01/2018 15:52

I think Trainsgender might have won the internet.

Yep!

Clever on so many levels...

Jozxyqk · 21/01/2018 15:47

DH is actually starting to get it - this is the first time it's hit home for him. Finally!

AngryAttackKittens · 21/01/2018 08:01

So I'm a woman on days when I'm going out somewhere I feel like dressing up for, and a man the rest of the time. Nice of this person to let me know. I'm genderfluid, the specialist snowflake of all!

thebewilderness · 21/01/2018 01:36

This current backlash against women's progress seems a particularly nasty one.

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 21/01/2018 00:14

If you eschew gender identity’s tiresome artificial stereotyping and recognise people as individuals with their own unique interests and preferences, this is totally normal. People are just people

I really, really, at one point, possibly definitely naively, thought we might have reached this point.

"People are just people" is what I fucking thought we were gearing/moving/working towards.
Race/religion/sex/dress etc etc. No matter what you wear/worship/fuck/look like....

I stupidly thought we were getting there....

Now I find my "gender critical" stance (didn't know at 18, make up less, wearing the baggiest of baggy shorts, dreads, xxl t shirts and riding my bmx that it was a "stance" Hmm) is actually transgender, and for the decades I've worn mens clothes and had "typically" "male" persuits that actuall I should have bedn male....rather than, ya know, a fucking woman with interests outside the dictated acceptable role.

badbadhusky · 21/01/2018 00:05

WTF are we then??

If you eschew gender identity’s tiresome artificial stereotyping and recognise people as individuals with their own unique interests and preferences, this is totally normal. People are just people.

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 21/01/2018 00:00

I think Trainsgender might have won the internet.

DP is clearly thinking I have lost it because I keep repeating it and laughing madly to myself. Grin

DP is with me on this btw.

When we had a conversation about it he was horrified (Dad of adult daughters) that his lovely, accepting daughters might be at risk in a womans toilet.
He's more amused by the gender stereotyping.

He finds it hilarious that the woman he is having great sex with would be considered male under these definitions.

Like another PP......he is the flower arranger/clothes shopper/present buyer in/better at housework person in our relationship....I am the motorbike mechanic/rugby playing/shaven headed/messy one.p

BUT.... Just to confuse these gender definitions....
I am the female SAHM....he is a boiler engineer.

WTF are we then??

TortiousTortoise · 20/01/2018 23:58

Pansexual and trainsgender, best things I've heard all day!

HairyBallTheorem · 20/01/2018 22:53

DS used to hold tea parties in the dolls house for his toy cars. The lorries wouldn't fit, so the cars (very nurturing stereotype coming up, so they must have all been women...) decided to move things outside and have a BBQ on the bedroom carpet so the lorries didn't get left out.

(Loving trainsgender, btw).

thebewilderness · 20/01/2018 21:44

I suppose gender and race can both be fluid while biological sex cannot because it only has Xs and Ys on offer..

NotAgainYoda · 20/01/2018 21:37

OkmaybeI'maTerf

Extraordinary! DS1 used to take his Brio trains for a walk in his toy buggy.

Trainsgender?

c75kp0r · 20/01/2018 21:34

I’m wearing an old shell suit my husband once owned but I’ll change if it means I get curry. As Emily Howard would say, a small laydee’s curry of course...

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