Go Fund Me addiction part 2

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Mostly No, because EQ2010.s9 defines what characteristics count as "race" for the purposes of determining if somebody has the protected characteristic of race for the purposes of EA2010. Kind of Yes, but not actually self-ID for the person who might have been discriminated against, rather a kind self-ID via perception for the person who has been accused of doing the discriminating (basically if somebody discriminates against somebody else because they think they are of a particular ethnic background, but the person being discriminated against isn't, that still counts as discrimination).

(ss1 - ss4):

(1) Race includes—

(a) colour;
(b) nationality;
(c) ethnic or national origins.

(2) In relation to the protected characteristic of race—

(a) a reference to a person who has a particular protected characteristic is a reference to a person of a particular racial group;
(b) a reference to persons who share a protected characteristic is a reference to persons of the same racial group.

(3) A racial group is a group of persons defined by reference to race; and a reference to a person's racial group is a reference to a racial group into which the person falls.

(4) The fact that a racial group comprises two or more distinct racial groups does not prevent it from constituting a particular racial group.

Of course, this covers everyone because everybody has a colour, everybody has an ethnic or national origin, most people have a nationality, but the reasons the definitions are included in the act is so that the Court can judge if somebody has been discriminated against because of one or more of ss1 qualifiers, and if they have then they've been discriminated against as a result of race.

I still don’t understand why Go Fund Me were happy to accept the petition and fund raiser in the first place. Even after it was flagged as potential Transphobic. They are still allowing money to be donated.

But if they find out your real name and that you are a member of the Labour Party. They try get you expelled from that

And never want to accept money from you FOREVER even if it’s for trans issues or cute puppies or
Both!

Betsy MOO

and 14 more signatories today on the petition !!!

£20,000

I think that a person has to have been discriminated against to challenge it (not a lawyer though).
However just read this:
"Victimisation is treating someone unfavourably because they have taken (or might be taking) action under the Equality Act or supporting somebody who is doing so."
These women might have a case there I guess.

Haru: does what you say about biological sex and the law re self-identification, also hold good for race?

Does this mean that Jennifer can no longer challenge them?
Does it have to someone on the inside? Can't the general public challenge them?

This is the whole thing, isn't it? They can tweet this - but it's against the law. They can say that Labour is "ahead of the law" - but that means they are breaking the law. Which is what the whole crowdfunder was about in the first place. A legal challenge.

And now they suspended Jennifer. I'm just so angry about this - you just feel helpless - welcome to being a woman!

Just seen that Vauxhall CLP tweeted that transwomen are allowed on AWS. (No clarity about GRC just a load of the usual misogyny) This shit just never stops.

I wonder if you could ask for their PP details, so you can write directly to them citing political discrimination...? I’m quite sure companies can’t stop others taking your money for your political beliefs?

their payment partner will no longer process my payments

Depending on what they mean by that, that could be pretty crippling.... hopefully they mean that their payment provider won't process your payments only to GoFundMe - because if they mean to anyone that's going to put a bit of a crimp in your online shopping (especially if it's someone big like Stripe)

Seriously if you are concerned that Labour staffers might be breaking the Data Protection Act then please call ICO helpline for advice. There are very hefty legal remedies available if there has been found to be a breach of DPA.

thanks facelessvongorgeous for some reason MN won't let me reply, but have read it.

Not a member of the Labour party, but I was a Green until a few years ago when they started this transwomen are women rhetoric.

Labour are welcome to put my MN username on a list.

These ridiculous children are going to guarantee a Tory victory at the next election, aren't they? It's so frustrating!

Ok how does one resign from Labour? Stop the DD and wait for them to notice? Is there a flounce email address? I really can't face the attention seeking 'tweet a picture of your cut up membership card' (ok I'm a wimp and can't face being hassled over it). And also I am so scunnered now I'd probably have to give a bullet point list of all the reasons as there are several. I should have done this last year. I didn't even vote for them in the general election, I suppose I just hang on for the leadership votes (I'm in Scotland, Labour here have a lot of leadership votes).

@CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger, I've sent you a PM about your warning.

I mean seriously, Labour, you're a political party, not a disappointing sequel to Mean Girls

Anyway, I have just cancelled my direct debit, chopped my Labour membership card into bits (then had to piece it back together again when I realised I needed my membership number to resign ) and sent an angry email to my (now ex) CPL. I was avoiding doing that as it just reduces the amount of gender critical members within Labour, but just could not associate myself with such a misogynistic and bullying party anymore.

It's like the war - we are the resistance ....😫

I mean seriously, Labour, you're a political party, not a disappointing sequel to Mean Girls. Will the fucking grown ups please step in and sort this shit out?

Yes, what are they actually going to DO with all this sinister intel?

"She turned me into a newt!"

Didn't someone who was posting here have a contact at the Daily Mail? "Insane Labour staffers attack female members over Mumsnet posts" seems like a headline tailor made for the Mail.

This whole thing is fucking pathetic.

There are Labour staffers working in membership that are involved in that secret Facebook group and some of them are after women on Mumsnet (I guess to dox/add to their hitlist)

Do you mean all of us or just party members? What are they going to do with us when they catch us? Ceremonially cast us out of the Labour party if we are members? Doxx us more publicly? Come after us???

I'm confused by this whole business. :(