Go Fund Me addiction part 2

And Ralf Little retweeting effing James O' Brien having Paris Lees on his show, after the whole furore and women spending so much time trying to explain the issue to him. A big Fuck You really. Paris Lees must seem like a perfect woman to these men - none of that tiresome #MeToo shit.

Thanks IrkthePurist for finding that link - I found the quote on Twitter [ I'm ashamed to say I can't remember who from] But just seemed to nail the issue without any emotional baggage. I mean Ralf Little just INCENSED me with his unconscious misogyny, complaining about women en masse messaging him, as if we are one amorphous group, and asking to hear from 'the other side'. Jesus. I would be forever grateful if someone could just post that quote to all those brocialists! If they don't understand it, at least it is there, and repetition might just start to filter it through. It really is quite a revelation, this whole debate, how so many men use it to virtue signal, whilst being TOTALLY unaware of how they reveal their own subconscious misogyny.

Their behaviour, especially Madigan and cohorts, has been despicable. Not fit for office.

Among the weakest Tories in my lifetime struggling with Brexit and Labour still can't come out on top in the polls

Why Trans shortlists? My brother is deaf, should he demand shortlists for deaf People? Of course he souldn't because he isn't a self absorbed eejit.

You know, if there was a campaign to set up that acknowledged that AWS ought only to be open to women, but that wanted to give trans people a fair crack of the whip by setting up some trans only lists, open to trans identifying males and females alike, I'd consider slinging them a fiver.

I’ve said pretty much exactly this on Twitter before - generally in response to someone asking why women aren’t campaigning for all-trans shortlists. If a trans person set up this campaign I’d donate, I genuinely think more trans representation in politics would be a good thing, but it should be the men that step aside to allow them greater representation.

My allegiance is with uppity women.They would be my +1 at a party, they don't whinge about their oppression.

The failure of the pro-trans fundraiser speaks volumes about the narcissism of some TRAs. Surely most of them could spare a fiver to help others.

She didn't care about poverty when she was threatening legal action and tweeting Ralf she could have her legal team help him. I asked her to look at the small donations and how could the Abused Women who donated be a bigot. She has forgotten what life is like without a legal team, out of touch.

So 50% of transfolx attempt suicide, but 50%> succeed?
Yeah, I'll support their GFM for a stats course. Who wants to set one up?

Delurking just to say that I've donated and I support these brave wonderful women wholeheartedly. Let's keep fighting.

Also, if any of you live in the North West, there will be a CLP meeting in Sandbach soon, with Mermaids as guest speakers. I would love to go but I'm not brave enough to argue for us TERFs ;) on my own. :(

Oh, that other crowd funder.

I almost feel a bit sorry for that guy.

I guess it's much easier to virtue signal and parrot the 'trans women are women' mantra than it is to stick your hand in your pocket and put your money where your mouth is?

half of trans young people attempt to kill themselves and many more succeed.

From the other gofundme campaign. Maybe the £300 would be better spent sending the campaigner on a basic stats course

Jack is a MNer and came on this board a couple of years ago or so using her own name and started a thread. She seemed to be up for listening to other POVs but then disappeared just as she appeared to get it. But we're all busy, and nobody has to return to a thread if they don't wish to.

I do admire Jack's work around poverty, and I think there is probably a lot of common ground between her and this board re. feminism.

I can fully understand not wanting to feel the wrath of the TRAs though. I am not brave enough to take them on, and I think all of you that do are awesome.

There are tons of trans women in IT, you'd think they could raise more money than that.

I have donated. I wish I could give more. I wish this wasn't necessary but since it is I'll do all I can to help fight this ridiculousness.

The TRAs have their own fundraiser to combat Jennifer's:

www.gofundme.com/love-vs-hate-support-trans-youth

It's raised £260 in 23 hours.

Didn't Monroe have a moment of self-awareness at the women's march where she made the connection between the shit treatment she's often subjected to and the fact that she's female? Sad to see that it didn't last, but to be fair given how strongly she's been associated with the trans rights movement if she was to try to extricate herself at this stage the backlash would be brutal. Even very mild, gentle questioning and they turned on her.

Its here and you have to read it, now;
medium.com/@JonahMix/playing-the-intersex-card-3d95bb29ea16

''Despite this obvious fact, genderists have been able to position themselves as somehow on the side of intersex individuals while casting radical feminists as aggressors. It’s not too hard to understand why: Radical feminists are so often painted as being unfriendly or unaccommodating towards intersex people because radical feminists are the ones consistently naming the social and political structures that actually do oppress intersex people, and liberals have a nasty habit of confusing someone naming the reality of an oppression with someone propagating that oppression.''

''Queer theorists see the intimate connection between biological sex and oppression, and they react by dismantling the notion of biological sex; feminists see the intimate connection between biological sex and oppression, and they react by dismantling oppression. That’s the fundamental difference between liberals and radicals; one sacrifices truth to avoid confronting power, and one confronts power to avoid sacrificing truth.''

Maggie that quote is excellent. Do you know where it came from? I'm not anonymous on Twitter either but if I can find the source I may still be able to use it.

Glad he's not the Barrister for my tax affairs 😳

Excellent quote Maggie but doubt Ralf Little would be able to undrstand that and Jolyon Maugham probably wouldn't be able to get to the end of it as apparently he incapable of reading to the end of things 🤔

Awesome Maggie! had to read it 3 times to make sense of it

May borrow and use if that's ok?!

I set up a second account with different email but I can switch between both on my app.