Go Fund Me addiction part 2

busyboysmum

Do it. Show him you are just a normal woman with concerns.

It's his duty to listen to you.

I wrote to my MP Mike Kane. Several times in fact. Whenever anything new happens. He's now saying he won't reply to any more of my letters on the subject but if I want to come in and see him I can.

Vicxy

That's awful. It absolute should have been enough to have your MP spitting bloody nails. And if you want to name and shame them on here go right head.

Our MPs are accountable.

It's a frightening position to be in when you take time to write something that is so bloody obvious, and it's ignored.

And you're not alone, many people are getting a bog standard reply.

However, a significant number aren't.

So for anyone else, it's still worth it.

Also, I have read several accounts from women who got a bog standard, brush off reply, then made an appointment.

It appears that quite a few MPs don't actually read the letters, but give them to an assistant to deal with.

Perhaps a young, right-on assistant...

So a meeting is useful, if you do not get a satisfactory reply.

It feels onerous, but it's so very important.

Vicxy to your sister.

put in a very awkward and potentially dangerous position by a transwoman who 'passed' while my sister was drunk, but she discovered when they were alone at her house that the 'woman' she had taken home had a penis and expected to use it. So alone with a drunk and horny male. It ended without her getting hurt mind, but word sharp spread about how she was a transphobic terf.

So she should have shagged the person in order to prove her right on credentials, and must be punished for not doing so? I mean, not that it's a surprise, but they sure are feeling confident that they won't face any consequences for being openly in favor of rape.

Good luck getting a reply that actually addresses your concerns. My reply seemed totally generic and did not answer even one of the things I asked, instead waffled on about wanting to be inclusive and the struggles trans people face

My sisters reply was even worse. A lot of waffle about inclusivity and an accusation that she was a bigot..as she had added in about being called transphobic and put in a very awkward and potentially dangerous position by a transwoman who 'passed' while my sister was drunk, but she discovered when they were alone at her house that the 'woman' she had taken home had a penis and expected to use it. So alone with a drunk and horny male. It ended without her getting hurt mind, but word sharp spread about how she was a transphobic terf. Was the first time I had actually heard the word terf said out loud actually because of all that rubbish. She did not go out without my cousin for a long time. My cousin is a transwoman, and was setting people straight about it all. Was a stupid petty thing that went on forever. Bit of a rant there but yeah, seemingly generic reply with an added snipe about how her language sounded transphobic (I assume this was for using male insted of woman), a bit more waffle and then another transgender people fac a lot of discrimination from bigoted people.

Also, when you email, send a hard copy in the post. Write on the email that you are sending a hard copy, and write on the hardcopy the date you emailed.

In this day and age, an actual piece of paper is harder to ignore.

@AbsintheFriends

This is a good place to start for a non-ranty letter. They talk you through what to say.

They then suggest you include personal experience/anecdote.

You might want to hit your MP between the eyes with something from the trans threads here?

Perhaps Paris Lee talking at the women's March? Make sure you include a cut and paste of the incredibly sexist things Lees has said so they get it.

fairplayforwomen.com/womans-place-uk

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3145405--to-be-baffled-sad-and-angry-that-Paris-Lees-is-speaking-at-the-Womens-March-tomorrow?msgid=74978311

But JM states yesterday they were a lesbian woman....

I am so fucking confused...

It's like dealing with children

I know this is a rookie question, but does anyone have any tips for contacting an MP? Ours is one of the 2017 new starters, young and female so I'd like to find out where she stands on this. If I email, I feel it should be to ask her for something specific rather than just to rant about how ridiculous it all is (which feels like the extent of my capabilities at the moment) Any help from wiser and more politically astute MNers would be very welcome

Absolutely, vicxy, I totally get that, and I hope you can pull it off

I don't agree with Jack at all, I was just saying what she's pasting all over Twitter, and she's probably got Go Fund Me a bit scared.

Hi irretating

Nice to see a fellow Pratchett fan.

All this is rather like something he would poke gentle fun at in a Discworld Book.

Nanny Ogg would never stand for this bullshit.

Also, always good to 'meet' a fellow Terry Pratchett fan.

Welcome comrade!

I am so angry that I’ve just joined the Labour Party.

Let’s stop this from the inside!

Yes it is. Labour trans activists are kicking back and trying to get gender critical women expelled from the party, this particular motion is for Garston and Halewood CLP.

I say bring it. Can you imagine the fall out? Men colluding and conspiring to kick women out of the party. Men arguing that women aren't and have never been discriminated against on the grounds of sex. Men telling women that we have no place to debate and discuss rules which could have implications on our right to privacy and dignity.

@irretating - that's rather fierce? Where is it from? I'm confused about what the CLP are.

That would be amazing if he would Vicxy

Jack's been all over Twitter talking about legal action, identity fraud, defamation and libel, and how she's got great lawyers, Katie Hopkins selling her house etc. As Jennifer James herself says 'Jack won a case against KH and now thinks she's the attorney general'.

I meant someone I know in real life, called Jack Monroe. The other Jack will have issues in court trying to prove ownership of a name thats quite common.

I am seriously hoping hes willing.

Posted before I finished again, how to stop this..anyway

It would be reasonable to have a trans officer, distinct from an lgb one and a women's one - where the officer had to be trans - which would in effect create ATS for this one office.

I like this idea. LGB and T are entirely different anyway.

ATS in certain areas might actually kill the party off in those areas.

Could always be for 'self-identified' trans people

Given its apparently reasonable for anyone to self identify that they are a woman.

I feel a bit sorry for people donating to the other fundariser now that I have read it, the one started by a TRA. They are being had. A gofundme is not needed for people to donate to charities that help trans people. They could donate direct via the actual charity. Therefor, I think that fundraiser is for some extra cash in the person who started its bank account, nothing else.

New update on the go-fund me page

Oh god, I would just have to do that, Vicxy. This silencing (and now blocking donations) has gone too far.

Jack's been all over Twitter talking about legal action, identity fraud, defamation and libel, and how she's got great lawyers, Katie Hopkins selling her house etc. As Jennifer James herself says 'Jack won a case against KH and now thinks she's the attorney general'.

Also this may be very childish, but I will be seeing Jack Monroe (and actually possibly Jack Munroe) at a wedding next weekend. I am going to try and persuade him to donate though it may be harder if I tell him that he will have to send in photo ID to prove who he is. Hmm.