Is it legal for a man to use the women's toilet in England? Scotland?

Oh and they’ve gone

Bye then 👋

NB not a mum

Oh noes how will you cope Qgd2019

Btw, what where you researching

Translation: “Big meanies, you’re howwible [stamps foot], and you’ve had children, ewww.”

The gynaephobia is strong with this one.

Perhaps if you don’t like parents who are concerned about paedophiles, a parenting website isn’t the place for you. I believe here are other websites available which may be more to your taste.

Aggressive responses saying you're sick of parents trying to protect their kids? On a parenting website? To underline your argument to women's and girl's intimate space?

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Males and females use your bathroom at home.

I know the people I share a house with, or who visit it. I don’t know you from Adam.

Qgd2019

I am actually a transwoman and however you wanna insult me and people like me over petty nonsense is your problem. Males and females use your bathroom at home.

As you are not bothered by males and females sharing (based on the ridiculous comparison to home env) use the gents and let women have the safety and dignity if the ladies.

A phobia is an irrational fear, there is nothing irrational about females being scared of males in public toilets.

We just wanna pee. Leave us alone.

Then do so in the toilets provided for your sex. It's perfectly safe. You just said so.

I doubt they would go through the hassle of pretending to be trans to do it.
Some pedophiles go through the hassle of becoming priests in order to rape and assault little boys and girls. What really is the hassle of pretending to be trans?

I am actually a transwoman and however you wanna insult me and people like me

Wait a minute, I was under the impression that using the term transwoman instead of trans woman was transphobic.

How curious...

@Ogd2019
UNESCO has specific programmes to promote segregated toilets around the world, because it is recognised as a policy that protect women and girls from sexual assault. What makes the West special that women and girls in UK, US etc do not deserve this basic protection? People who are male-bodied should not have access to spaces for females. This is really simple. If it is true that males are not dangerous, surely you can use their toilet. Problem solved.

So yeah, putting on a dress and some lippy doesn't seem like a huge effort for predators to go to.

Which isn't necessary anyway.

I doubt they would go through the hassle of pretending to be trans to do it.

Ah the old "you're accusing trans people of being predators and perverts so, you're tansphobic" argument. A Middleborough Conservative councillor made campaigning for gender neutral toilets his top priority after being elected, he's subsequently been arrested on nine charges of child sexual abuse. He is not trans but normalising men in women's spaces is a gift to people like that.

I've also seen a story from a student social worker who reported that at the start of their course, in a class of 70, the tutor stated, statistically 1-3 of the students would be training in order to gain access to vulnerable children for the purposes of abusing them. So yeah, putting on a dress and some lippy doesn't seem like a huge effort for predators to go to.

I'm quite sure the trans lobby can see the merit of these arguments but chooses to gaslight us because validating trans identity is more important that other people's safety.

Waah we just want to pee, why are women so MEAN?

Why do a certain group of people like to resurrect threads in order to insult women? It seems to commonly occur on weekends.

Women wanting to maintain their single sex provisions is not transphobia. Why should women put transwoman’s demands above their own needs and rights? Many women fear men due to experience. Demands to include people they perceive as men into their segregated areas is cruel.

I doubt they would go through the hassle of pretending to be trans to do it. They'd just sexually assault women and kids in the street, This is transphobia. We just wanna pee

Tell that to the two child victims of Katie Dolatowski, sexually assaulted in toilets.

Also, weird to resurrect a Zombie thread to to express outrage.

This is transphobia. We just wanna pee. Leave us alone.

Don't be silly. If you need to pee, use the men's please.

Males and females use your bathroom at home.

Eh? That’ll be my family and friends then? I’m sure my bathroom at home isn’t a public one? Or did I miss a memo?

You shouldn't really be using the men's though unless you're happy for them to do the same.

I've seen men take their kids into the women's to change them or help them, and no one minds. I've used the mens in an emergency and it makes men uncomfortable.

I'm guessing the reason for said men's unease is because many of them will have their genitalia out whilst using the urinals, unlike in the women's where everybody has their modesty protected by a cubicle.

That said, I do know more than a couple of men who've admitted to sneaking into the ladies at work when they need to drop a deuce as it's so much cleaner than the men's.

Some people are willfully blind AdultHuman. Anyone who writes stupidity such as the 'men use your bathroom at home' line and thinks they are making a valid argument is simply showing they have no grasp of the realities of women's lives. Or maybe they know they are being gf.

Really interesting thread, thanks to those who shared valuable information.

I find it amazing that some people still can't see that if any man can call themselves a woman through self ID and access women's spaces, then abusive males will (and already do) use that as a very easy loophole to get access to women and girls. This doesn't mean we think all trans people are abusers, it means we have an issue with self ID.

Women have had an element of safety for decades by having our own toilets. If any man can enter them, that safety is lost. A lot of women, especially disabled and religious women, for fear of encountering a man in the toilets, will just stay at home rather than go to the gym, go shopping etc in case they need to use a public toilet. This therefore has huge implications for the rights and liberties of women - it effectively erodes and removes them, in favour of men who want to use our toilets.

I find it strange when people genuinely can't see the issues here, which are glaringly obvious.

Thank you MrsAird,

I wish we could sticky your post somewhere on here, so that more women see it and we can feel confident in protecting our own spaces.
I will print it out.