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Wrong side of history

514 replies

LyraPotter · 15/01/2018 16:35

Here is something I know to be true: those campaigning against trans rights will fail. Your money will be raised and spent and wasted. Your legal challenges will not succeed. Your relentless attempts to do injustice will fail. You are on the wrong side of history. Your children will grow up knowing better than you. You cannot stop progress. Your efforts are in vain.

And every time I'm proven right - every time a court judgment goes against you and every time a law protecting trans men and women is passed and every time equality is further enshrined in the laws of this country I am going to return to this thread for the pure and petty purpose of telling you I TOLD YOU SO.

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QuentinSummers · 18/01/2018 17:53

I think that is the post that's been deleted off Facebook.
The central party must be bricking it. Legal challenge on one side, pissed off vocal brocialists on the other

HermioneWeasley · 18/01/2018 17:44

Oh FFS! I saw a statement from Labour NEC this afternoon?

QuentinSummers · 18/01/2018 17:24

I don't think it's been confirmed yet hermione Sad
mobile.twitter.com/maddiemantis/status/954037469158273025

HemlockSpartacus · 18/01/2018 17:23

Hermione Bet that was satisfying to type? Grin

HermioneWeasley · 18/01/2018 17:22

Hi Lyra - just popping back to point out we won the legal challenge without spending a penny of our lovely money. Lots in the pot for future fights!

FlawlessFuckup · 18/01/2018 17:16

Can anyone post the link for the fundraising page?
Don’t worry Lyra, I’ve got loads of money 👍🏻

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 18/01/2018 16:59

I dont think so mybrilliantdisguise

MyBrilliantDisguise · 18/01/2018 16:58

What's interesting is that the OP's other threads are very, very unlike this. If someone changes their name, can someone else then have that name?

thebewilderness · 18/01/2018 16:29

A neo nazi tweeter explains all the verbally abusive men on the thread.

JessicaEccles · 18/01/2018 16:22

I'm just trying to say that a busy, meaningful and fulfilling life can be found in other ways than through sexual relationships

Oh yes. But children deserve to have the choice, or at least the chance. To neuter your child even before they know what they are missing just disgusts me.
But hey! At least he's not gay!

JessicaEccles · 18/01/2018 16:22

I'm just trying to say that a busy, meaningful and fulfilling life can be found in other ways than through sexual relationships

Oh yes. But children deserve to have the choice, or at least the chance. To neuter your child even before they know what they are missing just disgusts me.
But hey! At least he's not gay!

LangCleg · 18/01/2018 16:09

*Can I just point out that Mark Collett is a former Chairman of the Young BNP? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Collett

I don't think he's going to help the cause, to be honest.*

He's a dreadful person. But the responses - and number of likes/retweets - to what he said should give the TRAs pause for thought. They are tilting at the wrong windmills and, if they continue to alienate women, their natural allies, will find themselves very much alone and isolated when the eventual backlash comes.

ftw · 18/01/2018 16:07

Yep. You see stuff like that and you see why kind, well-meaning people leap to their defence.

I too would go to the barricades for their right to express themselves that way, but their oppression is not the same as women’s oppression.

TitaniasCloset · 18/01/2018 15:47

Just donated, thanks for the reminder.

bookworm14 · 18/01/2018 15:37

Can I just point out that Mark Collett is a former Chairman of the Young BNP? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Collett

I don't think he's going to help the cause, to be honest.

MrsTerryPratchett · 18/01/2018 15:32

Perfectly nice person, with EU views I agree with. Just NOT selected appropriately. And now subject to really nasty abuse. It's a mess. And I would go to the barricades for that person to wear those clothes and make up and express themselves as they choose. No mean stuff about eyebrows FFS.

But not a woman.

Deadlylampshade · 18/01/2018 15:31

Don’t see anyone jumping in and telling the actually bigoted hate mongerers to die in a fire. No that’s just reserved for feminists

Vicxy · 18/01/2018 15:24

Yeah some of those replies are awful. Mainly from men, oddly enough. Not from feminists

CAAKE · 18/01/2018 14:58

Yes, the actual bigots are out in full force I'm afraid. Makes us TERFs look reasonable by comparison.

DodoPatrol · 18/01/2018 14:49

Some of those tweets are awful. Genuinely intolerant, nasty, bigoted gits just putting the boot in.

Still, stopped clock and all that...

CAAKE · 18/01/2018 14:41

This tweet has 1400 replies that are mostly saying 😮 at Labour's selection from it's "all women shortlist" for the Rushcliffe PC. Great stuff, our point is being proven for us.

twitter.com/markacollett/status/953523145394327552

LangCleg · 18/01/2018 13:41

It's been found - not from trans treatments but from previous use in precocious puberty - that puberty blockers reduce IQ by somewhere between 5 and 10 points.

AngryAttackKittens · 18/01/2018 13:33

Jazz seems very immature for his age. Part of that could just be having been trapped in the reality TV bubble and a dysfunctional family for so long, but I do wonder if the medical stuff that's been done to him is part of it too.

AngryAttackKittens · 18/01/2018 13:30

It's all the cognitive stuff that usually happens during puberty that worries me. If normal puberty is blocked does that cognitive development still happen, happen only when the "blockers" are stopped and cross sex hormones introduced, or not happen at all? Can a person who's been through that process really be considered capable of informed consent even when they're 18 or over if that cognitive development doesn't happen? Not only do we not seem to know, nobody seems to be interested in finding out either.

DodoPatrol · 18/01/2018 11:58

No, I do agree that it sounds like Jazz is damaged and depressed. I'm just trying to say that a busy, meaningful and fulfilling life can be found in other ways than through sexual relationships. I hope Jazz manages that.