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ITV Transformation Street

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RedToothBrush · 11/01/2018 17:29

On tv tonight.

But here's an article to give you a taste of what its going to be like:www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/transformation-street-itv-transgender-documentary-a3737876.html

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Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 23/01/2018 19:23

Its been alright harv

But i cant stop eating this week

Its ridiculous

Hope your day has been good

48harv · 23/01/2018 19:20

Thank you for those words of comfort, I am sure that given the chance I can be an asset to you , there is still time to change minds in the government, it isn’t a done deal yet and with enough signatures it could be shown the law is unworkable. Oh and I hope your day has been kind to you all.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 23/01/2018 18:23

harv

I agree completely with quentins last post

Italiangreyhound · 23/01/2018 18:19

100% agree with @QuentinSummers

Honesty. There are some appaling people outfitted tweeting all kinds of crap against women and loads of blokes doing appealing things. 48 is here and is listening, learning and actioning. Which is great.

48 (or do you prefer harv) you do not need to justify yourself.

Flowers
QuentinSummers · 23/01/2018 18:13

harv u don't need to justify yourself to us and you have the absolute right to live and present however you want to.

48harv · 23/01/2018 18:02

I know I can never be a biological woman but the facsimile that I have means I continue to exist, the other alternative was seriously considered on the 22.06 1990 and encouraged by my tormentors.

48harv · 23/01/2018 17:45

To my doubters I can only say I regretted my attitude to start with I felt as if I was being “attacked” and I responded, I bitterly regret the tone but cannot take it back as it has been said, constantly apologising is useless, I can only prove my sincerity by the actions I take

I have posted the letters to Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn, and my local MP and will continue to send them until they respond and offer unreservedly my support for any other initiatives you propose.

BigDeskBob · 23/01/2018 10:07

Why does it matter if a GRC takes three minutes or three years to obtain? It's still men buying the title of "women". The process doesn't guarantee that these men are safe to be around, or that they even pass as women. Women and girls are no less at risk from a man with a GRC than from a man without one.

GRC are irrelevant anyway. Men are in women's hospital wards and prisons without GRC, men are taking over positions of authority supposedly earmarked for women and threatening anyone who speaks out.

I know that some men with GRC think that it's proof of their femaleness, and that some women think GRC makes a man safe, but it really doesn't. How can I few meetings with a therapist do that?

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 23/01/2018 08:41

I think bewilderness has a point

I have congratulated harv on their letter as I believe that shows that they are making an effort

That does not mean that i thinks harvs world view has changed within 4 days and with a sympathetic letter

I do think harv you should absolutely stick around, its nice to have a polite alternative view whatever my eventual feelings on the matter

thebewilderness · 22/01/2018 23:48

I will leave the thread to the male dominance dancers.

thebewilderness · 22/01/2018 23:46

I don't care, harv. Four days is hardly long ago. I am older than you so pls do not try to patronize me in this traditional way.

RaininSummer · 22/01/2018 23:45

Good letter Harv. I am a lurker more than a contributor as other posters here are way more eloquent but I am so pleased to see that you understand women's concerns.

48harv · 22/01/2018 23:24

Italiangreyhound I don’t mind being shot at so long as they miss🤪

48harv · 22/01/2018 23:21

Dear thebewiderness I am sorry that you are reading from words said long ago, I know it makes poor reading and all I can say is I was wrong and was upset when those words were written I don’t know what page you have read up to but continue reading and you will understand eventually that I was stupid and angry

Italiangreyhound · 22/01/2018 23:11

Yes, IMHO indeed. Or you can be super polite and say IMVHO (very!)

Others here may warn you well, I think like superheros our secret weapon is 'our anonymity' but sometimes heads do need to go above the parapet and one should be very careful not to get it shot off!

Thanks
thebewilderness · 22/01/2018 23:09

harv repeatedly passing judgment on the women in this 18 page thread is one of those things that we are either so used to that it rolls off our back like rain off ducks back or it feels like toxic water etching stone.
@thebewilderness not sure what you are talking about.
That is what I am on about.

48harv · 22/01/2018 22:59

IMHO is” in my humble opinion”

48harv · 22/01/2018 22:53

Dear Italiangreyhound as steady as a rock you are , I will take your advice and not stir the hornets nest thank you for your sound advice again 💐💗

48harv · 22/01/2018 22:49

I have kept the last passage about Muscato as he has blogged his comments so he has no legal claim to it now I also added his comment about his d..k, I think it adds a lot of clout to the self certificate rubbish

MipMipMip · 22/01/2018 22:40

I'm waiting for the first rape where a self identifying man is put in with a drunk woman (police try to avoid doubling up so a Saturday night dealing with drunks is the most likely time).

Italiangreyhound · 22/01/2018 22:35

@toldmywrath Thanks

Italiangreyhound · 22/01/2018 22:33

@48harv brilliant letter. Well done.

I would honestly say please do not send it to Lily Madigan. This may well put you on her hit list and as you have said you want to live as a woman and not be outed as trans she could make a lot of trouble for you and be quite a nasty person to tangle with!

Plus she will not change her mind! IMHO.

Plus the trans activists have made a lot of movements under the radar and I think it is time for us to do whatever we feel is right without giving hateful people the head up, IMHO.

@thebewilderness not sure what you are talking about. 48 is listening, learning and sharing. I think that's fab. (And writing a fucking outstanding letter!)

toldmywrath · 22/01/2018 22:31

@Italiangreyhound. IIRC means "if I recall correctly. "

48harv · 22/01/2018 22:07

Ow but wait my dad was a Labour supporter

48harv · 22/01/2018 22:06

Dear Vicxy Mn is not connected to my computer I did write it from a letter💐