ITV Transformation Street

That’s hug not huge, predictive text again 🤪

You take care of yourself harv

I am very touchy feely, all my clients get a huge from me when I arrive and when I go, I love them all❤️

And I would love to meet every one of you and I am glad we have chatted on this tricky subject

God bless you all💖

Oh there we go

What Quentin said

harv
You are you. Whether you have a vagina or a penis is only plumbing, it means nothing really. You are valuable and worthwhile as you are.

If you were here i would give you a hug

But that is such an unmumsnetty (and to be fair unrufus) thing to do that i think i would be kicked off the fourm

SO DONT TELL ANYONE

harv

I dont know what to say...im sorry

I do accept now something which when I joined this forum was an illusion, I CAN NEVER BE a biological woman ,
I never was
I can never be.
This has been a hard lesson to learn and learning it has been painful, but I do accept that to claim otherwise is only deceiving myself.

If I can say one thing

I pleaded, begged, bargained, employed every angle to persuade my God to put right the “joke” or the “injustice” he had perpetrated upon me, I was even tempted to sell my soul to the devil if I could have been put right ( I bottled on that one )
I asked my God what I had done in a past life that was so heinous that he would abuse me so. I do believe in God and his silence distressed me for many many years.

I think that that was deceitful true trans people have known all their lives so to marry and have children is “ a poor life choice “ to give all that hurt to someone who trusts you , especially so soon after marrying the woman is wrong and cowardly.

Couldn’t agree more but like I said it’s all in the eye of the beholder

Beta blockers have side affects if taken to early as they affect the growth of the penis and therefore restrict the available depth of a vaginaplasty. But the blockers do help with stopping male puberty and in conjunction with hormones can feminise the body and prevent hair growth on the face and body., the one thing going for theblockers is that if stopped the original gender will reclaim the host body. In time but there would be some damage to the male genitalia and possibly impotence.

I liked Kim. The American.

I wanted to know more about thr only trans man really featured, Lucas. Lucas seemed lovely. The trailer was so misleading. It looked like Lucas had met someone.

I did not the idea you marry someone, get them pregnant and then say you want to be a woman.

Sing was annoyingly. My penis doesn't make me any less a woman, but of course it does.

I have written 3 letters to Abdel Fattah el-Sisi And 2facebook pleas and it looks like Laura Plummer May be released by presidential pardon, I am not claiming credit if this is the case but I will be so happy if she comes home.

Hi everybody I to watched the final episode on Thursday, as with any section in society there are many different facets in the mix,
Myself I would have taken the surgery at 13 and been grateful for it,I hated my diddly, wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole, as you know I did try having girlfriends for appearances and my parents, and they were all really nice girls and women, the longest girl I knew was just under 2 years, she said to Me I was great company and if I was a girl we could be best friends but as a bloke I didn’t quite cut it.
i can swear categorically that I have not doubted my decision for 1 millisecond, I did feel sorry for some of them as they could never be feminine and will always be at risk of abuse,
I was as guilty as most trans women they look in the mirror and through “rose tinted glasses” would see the image they wanted to see,
“ mirror mirror on the wall who’s the fairest of us all”, and the mirror would enforce the perception that the beauty staring back was them.,
Narsasistic complex yes possibly, but when you are crying out for validation you clutch at straws,

Couldn't believe how much money they spend on it as well. What saddens me is when they are married with children and yet still want to spend £££s on themselves, to make themselves feel better.

Another PP posted on another thread that "he is just having a love affair with himself." Sums it up really.

I know what you mean mrswhiplington
I was wondering about the girlfriend .Would have liked her pov.

I know I may come across as a bit thick but I could not really get my head around what was going on with the singer. When they were stood in the dress shop I was thinking, "She is a man who thinks she is a woman who is in love with another woman but she wants to stay as a man." The world's gone mad.

The very definition of AGP and totally different to so many of the other trans women on the show
My thoughts exactly.

Angryattackkittens - I'll add to the pyre 😡 the very act of impregnating proves maleness beyond any doubt whatsoever. You can't be 'dysphoric' and still want to function sexually and biologically as a male. IMHO that particular individual was a straight man who likes wearing women's clothing and presenting in a stereotypically female way and enjoyed having tits to play with. The very definition of AGP and totally different to so many of the other trans women on the show.

I swear that if I see the sentence "she got her girlfriend/wife pregnant" in a newspaper I'm going to burn the damn thing.

What struck me from last nights show was that there are so many different feelings and individuals, with different motivations and to lump them all together under the 'trans' umbrella seems unhelpful and ridiculous.

Agree that surgeon is deeply disturbing.

I don't see how the (I thought very sensible) individual toward the end said 'I know I'm not ever going to pass as a woman but I feel better looking like this, it's the best I can do' I thought that was realistic, honest and frank. What I could not abide was the trans woman who was a singer, stating that keeping and using a penis 'didn't make her any less of a woman' Well I agree in one way, even if you did remove it you would still be 100% male (so, a man) I wonder how long it is until she knocks up her girlfriend with her 'female organ' 🤔

Absolutely right bambam

As technology gets better there might be things that can be just as effective a bit later on in the transition

But that will never happen if money is being made from younger people

I think it shows the massive advantage of having surgery earlier - most of the older people couldn't possibly pass for female - but with the younger ones there's always that problem of making a decision you'd regret

That’s the catch - for those who really are so dysphoric that this is their best option then puberty blockers and hormones would stop the “maleness” and help them pass through life without the stares, abuse etc. But with the onslaught of kids now seekibg help - how do you safeguard it properly yo get it right.

I felt the programme missed a lot out, I wanted to hear the thinking and the journey of the patients.

I got sick of shots of artificial tits and surgery.

I felt there was more to talk about.

I also felt it was a shame they only featured one trans man. Luke or whatever he was called in the first episode was probably the one I was really interested in. Although I did like Kim and her story.

I wonder with the guy telling his wives after a couple of years of marriage and a new baby, maybe he felt marriage and a baby would make it all go away. It felt very sad for his wife.