ITV Transformation Street

From the age of reason I wanted to be a girl, I pleaded with God to put it right, but in the 50s it was not even heard of, I cried myself to sleep almost every night, in my teens I went out dressed as a girl, bought my own clothes,in my 20s and 30s I still dressed in my rightful attire, I hated my male appendage, one night I pleaded with my God to make me whole or take my soul, in 1990 I finally transitioned and suffered abuse from locals and so called friends, now in 2018 having lived happily for the last 28 years I would only change one thing, I would have done it much sooner given the opportunity, you may say I am not a real woman , maybe not but it wasnt by my choice it was having an x instead of a Y, I never married because I didn’t want to hurt anyone, I waited until my parents died so I didn’t hurt them, my siblings were of similar ages as myself so were more worldly and given the choice to accept me or not at their disgression. Hope this clarifies why we do it when the pressure becomes unbearable.

Danny's whole argument is about what is best for him. Why not be honest with his wife before-hand?

I felt quite sorry for Wendy, I hope this all makes her happy.

As a mum my heart went out to the mum at the start.

How sad those women comparing their vaginas to the 'Mr Inglefield Vagina'!

I'm watching it on catch up. I think Wendy passed quite well. But Wendy was also married to a woman so why do these trans women keep marrying women?

Danny was so very selfish, there is no way on this earth I would stay with someone to be put through that. How much of their money is the surgery going to cost them as a couple while he gets his nose fixed and can, in the words of the surgeon think "I'm hot!" How many women think that!

@EmilyHowardsWife thank you for sharing this, it is amazing you were able to press him on this. And interesting that, as @Gileswithachainsaw observes, a kind of ""I'm more trans than you" kinda mentality. "

www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/jan/12/transformation-street-review-three-eloquent-case-studies-discuss-changing-gender?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other#comments

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emily

That is really interesting

It also seems to highlight a strange sort of

"I'm more trans than you" kinda mentality.

And almost as if he sees the sheer joke of it all on every one else but themselves?

That's really interesting EmilyHowardsWife - I don't think there is much support for the term currently in psychiatry, but it reminds me of the 'multiple personality' disorder that people used to talk about, where victims of abuse become different personas to cope with the trauma.

Watched this with my AGP partner the other day.
I did ask him what his take on this was and he said he didn't think any of them were "true" trans people and that they had deeper mental health issues.
Interesting, I thought, so I digged a bit deeper with him - what is true trans?
He couldn't answer - other than fluffy lady brain cultish nonsense.
Then a big realisation hit me, he has NEVER done anything to address why he doesn't feel male, why the OBSESSION with "ladies stockings, heels and full presentation".
I asked the question, got a jokey brush off. Pushed again, got a slightly annoyed "why does it matter". Bravely (considering he can rage if I poke holes or even slightly berate his feminine side) I pushed the question again - very calmly and logically, that it does matter if the obsession gets in the way of his male ego and my attraction to him.
He then started to get a bit angry and totally changed the subject.
I noticed this with the programme, no one asked the one important question - WHY, because when you get to the WHY, you can then get to the understanding and the healing (not saying that they give up dressing, but to truly understand the emotions and psychology behind it).
They are very protective of this alter ego, it seems to me that there is a fear that this "other" person within themselves will be killed if they are forced to face the real and difficult emotions behind it. This "other" is a safety blanket of some kind.
No wonder Ray Blanchard and other experts looking at the real reasons behind Transgenderism get so much rage directed at them.

And bless Wendy. She's pinned everything on this operation I can't help but wonder if it really will live up to her expectations

I'm just watching this now.

The people all seem so lovely and as the pp said they really aren't the ones I would assume to be making all the noise.

So far though I am struck by how heavily made up they all are. Like 13 year olds who bought their first orange foundation in boots.

And there seen to he other underlying issues with them too.

I'm not seeing anything besides stereo types yet.

And the one who said she thought she'd feel better after the breast op except she doesn't.

It's like all those other people who think a nose job will fix their problems but then it's a face lift and then Botox etc

Im.not sure liking trousers and going nuts over a crop top makes someone a boy.

Feel so bad for them tbh.

Had a look online at how prevalent the belief that gynaecologists can't tell the difference is, and it seems to be endemic, and spouted with such confidence that people actually believe it.

I did see some responses by transwomen and gynaecologists saying that there's no need for them to visit an ob/gyn at all, and that a normal GP can deal with most of the issues.

I imagine that the statement about transwomen going to gynaecologists is simply a lie. There is absolutely no reason at all for a transwoman to see a gynaecologist, and any gynaecologist would immediately recognise they were not biologically female.

Just how common are womb transplants?

Another one wondering why a trans woman would go to a gynaecologist.

And yes, what sort of gynaecologist world not recognise them as a trans woman.

Mind boggling.

Brain just exploded

"Why would they be going to a gynaecologist?"

to be a perve. Same reason this child rapist wants feminine hygiene products

www.duluthnewstribune.com/news/4387530-transgender-inmates-request-poses-quandary-cass-county-nd-officials

Apparently a lot of them wait until the wife is pregnant or has just given birth to tell her, because she's not likely to leave then, is she? But it's always presented as oh my ability to selflessly contain this stunning and brave part of myself has finally expired and I just have to do it. Now, while my wife is busy coping with a baby.

I've always suspect that in addition to wanting to make sure the wife is good and trapped there's an element of jealousy of all the attention that she/the baby are getting, given the frequency of narcissism in daddy transitioners.

Who is giving their wombs to these men? Is that really happening? I honestly do not believe that is currently a viable way of having a baby. It is so complicated - conception, vast and complex hormone changes, carrying baby, delivering baby... I honestly think that man (only going on article, haven't watched programme) is talking utter bollix.

And as for the gynaes who can't tell a real vagina from a surgically created one? Nah don't believe it.

But others reading it will

Never underestimate the extent to which lying is inherent to narcissism. And I mean the doctor as well as the patients.

I have been on the waiting for 2 years now to see a gynecologist after a uterine prolapse after giving birth to my son. I fucking hope that transwomen are not going to see gynecologists. What a load of self absorbed shit.

And of course a gynecologist would be able to tell the difference between an inverterted penis or a hole made of colon..and a real vagina. What planet are these people on who say/believe this rubbish..

Glad I didn't watch this. Even reading little bits of it is giving me the rage.

www.transgendertrend.com/transformation-street/

Excellent article

Just watching this now.
My sympathy is MASSIVE for people who are so distressed by their bodies that theyre able to put themselves through such horrible invasive procedures. Those men having a make up session actually made me cry; they seemed very very vulnerable and were disproportionately grateful for this help.

But you know what? Those transwomen all came across as sensitive caring individuals who literally want to just live their lives as they feel is right. They seemed like the very last people likely to push their way in to, for example, womans sport, all-women shortlists, DV shelters.

It has made me properly realise that the activists that are swearing at us and no-platforming Germaine Greer are mostly NOT the tortured souls that will pay £000s for a slightly upturned nose in the desperate hope of 'passing' enough to get away with wearing dresses and not get ostracised.

Unfortunately most of the world will watch this and wonder how feminists could possibly be so cruel and TERFy to such genuinely nice and confused men.