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ITV Transformation Street

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RedToothBrush · 11/01/2018 17:29

On tv tonight.

But here's an article to give you a taste of what its going to be like:www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/transformation-street-itv-transgender-documentary-a3737876.html

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48harv · 19/01/2018 21:28

Yes it was small portions, the last being buscuits and a cheese board if I remember rightly

Italiangreyhound · 19/01/2018 21:15

I hope they were small plates! (That's my mother talking!)

48harv · 19/01/2018 21:11

Once as a bet with some friends I prepared an 11 course meal for ten,people half of them wanted to go to sleep after about the 9 th course we were at the table for 4.5 hours.

48harv · 19/01/2018 21:08

That employ not imply

48harv · 19/01/2018 21:07

My first job after school was as a cook , I did that job for 13 years perhaps you should imply me 🤪🤪

Italiangreyhound · 19/01/2018 20:57

@48harv my family are very fussy and never enjoy anything I cook! Iong for the day they invent a pill I can eat instead of food (I'd be slimmer too!)
Wink

48harv · 19/01/2018 20:48

Ps hope your family enjoyed dinner hehe😊

48harv · 19/01/2018 20:46

I want to thank you all for allowing me to come on this forum, I am not sure why I did , I usually avoid discussing this issue and to live quietly not making waves or such like It was different talking to you thanks a lot ladies

Italiangreyhound · 19/01/2018 20:37

Glad it worked out for you.

Italiangreyhound · 19/01/2018 20:35

Oopse sorry, cross posted, that happens a lot here!

48harv · 19/01/2018 20:32

Truthfully I have never wavered from my decision, it was100% right for me, then and now.and without sounding melodramatic I wouldn’t be here still if I hadn’t transitioned when I did, the Friday I decided it was time I saw only one other avenue to finally resolve the issue. It was a very close call.

48harv · 19/01/2018 20:23

And if I could have had the op at 13 I would have jumped at it, as it is I was born to early.

48harv · 19/01/2018 20:08

I was 43 years old

Italiangreyhound · 19/01/2018 20:04

@48harv I totally know that it is not a choice. Nowadays the thing with the 'gender fluid' etc are a bit different.

Can I ask when you fully transitioned (age)? Don't answer if you do not wish to.

Must go and do dinner.

48harv · 19/01/2018 20:02

I had my first op in 1991 and due to a prolapse I had another op in 1992 exactly a year apart.

48harv · 19/01/2018 20:00

Can I point out one misnomer I didn’t choose to be transgender, it is one of the hardest roads to walk, if I was told you can choose to be trans or gay or a straight guy I would have chosen one of the two latter choices believe me, my existence was a form of hell, you learn to lie to deceive, to trust no one and double check everything. As a light note I had a very thin waist until the second op and when I was about 25 I used to wear a waspie all the time ,well one day I didn’t have it on and a girl from theinvoice dept came and grasped my waist , apparently there was a sweepstake doing the rounds that I wore a corset, that was close, hehe

Italiangreyhound · 19/01/2018 19:59

@48harv how long ago was this, some things changed in 2010.

Italiangreyhound · 19/01/2018 19:48

Obviously " to sexual abuse from men!"

48harv · 19/01/2018 19:47

Sorry but this form was not issued to me to me. I saw a psychiatrist for 2 years and he helped me get the surgery I was also monitored by my local GP but I was not given any form to show my intent to change gender, although I did go to the police and inform them what I was doing and checked if I would be breaking the law, I was told by them I could be arrested for breaching the peace if there was a riot over my actions

Italiangreyhound · 19/01/2018 19:47

Violence against women is never taken seriously, I know you know.

I used to watch 'Unreported World' and remember all the violence against women in Mexico etc. I remember reading somewhere that girls in Latin America have to hide in holes in the ground once they reach a certain age because they are so vulnerable to sexual abuse from me.

This is absolutely the crux of any matter for me. Safety for everyone, protection, lack of abuse etc.

If I did not see the ways in which males might abuse the proposed self identity laws and the ways some individuals have previously used their position to inflict suffering on women I would be a complete and utter supporter of trans issues for those for whom it is right.

Sadly, for a great many females now there are so many 'issues' around their bodies and the concerns they face I think a lot of young women are looking to being a trans man to kind of protect them from the bits of being female they hate! Which should not be necessary.

Italiangreyhound · 19/01/2018 19:41

@48harv I am furious they want to free this fucker. If he had been sexually assaulting middle aged men I am guessing he would never see the light of day again!

48harv · 19/01/2018 19:39

Can I ask what the consensus is on the freeing soon of the black cab rapist Worboys, should he go free?

Italiangreyhound · 19/01/2018 19:37

@48harv "It’s called gender re-assignment surgery" No I mean the certification you can get which you are not required to have surgery to get (now).

48harv · 19/01/2018 19:36

My opinion on woman’s sports as a trans woman are mixed, if you have transitioned in late teens you will have the frame of a woman, but if you are a late bloomer you will be a lot stronger than some (not all) fellow contestants, so might have an advantage, I believe a runner did this in the last olympics and there once was a tennis pro that also competed in their revised genders.

48harv · 19/01/2018 19:29

It’s called gender re-assignment surgery, the surgeon then gives you a form confirming the date of the surgery and then as I did you apply to have the birth certificate changed to the new sex and obtain all documents in this gender oh by then you would already have changed your name as you have to live a minimum of a year in your new gender, by deed poll

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