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I actually can understand why some trans people might have an issue with it, I remember a family friend going through it when I was about 11 and asking her why she never wore jeans and she said she had to live as a woman and I was like ‘but I wear jeans and my Mam wears jeans’ and she was like ‘when I’m a woman I’ll wear jeans too’.

I have a lot of sympathy for people transitioning I think you’re put in a no win wear girly clothes and be told you’re constructing an offensive sterotype, wear jeans and be at risk of not being put forward for the certificate.

But it’s the best way.

I have seen it I will be doing my best to help you

I have read the article and totally disagree with it it’s pandering.

What information do you want harv?

I will tell you the truth I was happy there was this 2 year cooling off period I welcomed the psychological briefings I attended every week, with the psychiatrist being very aggressive in his examinations of me, he was quite open with me an told me if there was even the smallest chance I was wrong he wouldn’t put me forward for the surgery , it is very necessary for this intense scrutiny,

Madness pandering to a minority in the hope of getting votes sick

That insane not jnsane see how angry I am lost my typing skills

My local MP is a lazy b**r and I wouldn’t waste my time no , you tell me where I can get all the info on this stupidity and I will make some noise believe me, it is silly, I will in a few months have to State I am still able to drive without any proof I think this law is stupid and I should have to prove it, the same is with the law you are so rightly angry with it is ludicrous to allow a man int a women’s space by him wearing a dress that’s jnsane

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/transgender-rules-reform-gender-dysphoria-changes-2004-gender-recognition-self-identify-a7855381.html%3famp

Though you might want to start with your local mp

Fabulous harv !!!

This law is what we’re fighting harv, this is why we’re talking.

If this proposed change hadn’t happened we would have all just got on with what we were doing before, the old honour system that has always been in place.

We don’t hate trans people, we can see the harm this could do.

We are also concerned about the MASSIVE spike in children wanting to transition and the lack of research around it.

We don’t want trans people to suffer we want them to have access to accurate medical advice and not have professionals too afraid to speak out.

This will really harm trans people, when trans stops being considered a disorder then the nhs will no longer have to fund it.
When they expand the law against conversion therapy to include trans people a professional could be struck off for suggesting therapy in children or adults who are experiencing gender dysphoria.
It’s going to really hurt trans people and we don’t think it’s ok.

We get tarred with the brush of transphobia but we have been fighting this the whole time even though we’re hated for it, in your corner not against you.

In fact send me the data and I will write to Theresa May and demand it be scrapped, I have written many letters to various governments , for example I wrote about the slow reopening of Mosul University as my friend was not allowed to go back to university after daesh fled
I have also written to Egypt’s president begging for Laura Plummers release to name but two, so I will gladly fight this stupid law in fact I think the 2 years should be extended not shirtened

And that diagnosed gender dysphoria is a prerequisite for a legal change of 'gender'.

That might, just might, highlight the difference between transsexuals and cross dressers. Get it out into the open.

if that became law I will stand by you with every breath in my body

Excellent. Spread the word.

If more transsexuals come out and say a transwoman is a transwoman rather than a transwoman is a biological woman, we might have a hope of stopping this law.

I would never impinge in women’s right in fact I am an ardent supporter of all you have and your right to more than you have now

Well that's great then. We are probably arguing at cross purposes because you don't understand feminism and the reasons why we get annoyed over gender stereotyping and our rights being eroded.

I got no gratification of a sexual nature in dressing as a woman just an intense relief from the inner pain I felt,

Yes I get that.

But currently, there is no legal difference between you and a cross dresser. You might hate that, which is entirely understandable.

But cross dressers are piggybacking on your narrative and your condition.

Claiming they are actually biological women. Claiming that they are lesbians and that lesbians are transphobic for not dating them.

Plus they are also exploiting the law and getting to compete against women in sport, male sex offenders being transferred to female prisons, etc.

This may well be something you completely disagree with.

And that will only help, if you join forces with women against this new wave of transactivists.

Yes I am angry at that news and am as outraged as you and if you think I am remotely pleased if that became law I will stand by you with every breath in my body

Dear colcopew I wear unisex attire for convenience as doing housework for elderly people in my community these clothes are more suitable, my inner pain was totally reduced after my operations the choice of clothes was no longer an issue as I was finally at peace with myself

harv I don’t think you understand what the proposed law change is. You will no longer have to live as a woman for two years or have gender dysphoria to get a gender recognition certificate, so yes it would include transvestites.

If I were you I’d be raaaaaaaaagibg about it.

March the 8th is a Sunday I will be in London for the national women’s day March ending at Trafalgar Square for this very reason, perhaps we can meet if you are there.

I don’t have fears about trans people. I was brought up by lesbians and all my life I have been surrounded by trans women.
The vast majority of them like yourself don’t think they are biologically female and they think the self id thing is harmful to them as it puts them in the same category as transvestites and non binary people.

You see it used to be that there was two type of trans women, the transexual who had gender dysphoria and just wanted to live as a woman and then you had the tranvestite who dressed as a woman at the weekend for a sexual kick. Now it’s very unpc to say that and everyone is just lumped together under ‘transgender’ so mike from accounts who dresses up as Michaela at the weekend is now just as much a trans person as you are.
In fact mike doesn’t even have to dress up he can just suddenly decide that he’s michaela in the middle of the day and then go back to being mike later on. The proposed law change even says you DONT HAVE TO EXPERIENCE GENDER DYSPHORIA to be trans. I mean how does that work?

I understand it’s frustrating to have to live as a woman for two years before you’re allowed to transition but it is so much better than the alternative.

Harv you mention you rarely wear a dress or skirt but say you get relief from inner pain by dressing as a woman.
How do you define dressing as a woman?

Datun what you have just said confuses me

Firstly there are many facets to trans people , transvestites are people that get gratification from wearing female clothes, then there are drag queens, and many other forms of cross dresser, these are nothing to do with people like me, I got no gratification of a sexual nature in dressing as a woman just an intense relief from the inner pain I felt,
I would never impinge in women’s right in fact I am an ardent supporter of all you have and your right to more than you have now

Of course I want you to have a job and a nice life, it’s really not about that and it’s really sad that that is what you’re seeing in our words.
Come out in public, we’ll fight for your right to do so without harassment, we’ll be your allies in securing specialised facilities, we’ll wave your banner for you to be a proud trans woman (or trans woman who just wants to live quietly whatever you prefer).
But as a trans woman. When you change the legal definition of woman to include male bodied people you strip away many of our hard fought for sex based rights that are there to protect us. A sexual discrimination case dissolved into thin air if the thing can happen to both sexes.

This isn’t about you. You’ve been caught in the cross fire. This is about women’s legal rights most of which are based around our biological functions of the breeders and feeders of the species.

I don’t equate a man in a dress with a threat to my safety. I look at a man in a dress and see a man, in a dress.
Putting on a dress doesn’t magically him a woman and thus it has been proven by studies that trans women retain the same level of violence as a non trans man. I don’t think a trans woman is any more likely to commit a crime than any other biological male, but because I don’t know which ones are a threat to me and which ones aren’t then I’d rather keep them separate.
Also it’s just not true that men wouldn’t put on a dres in orde o get access to women, not true at all, just look at the high level of trans prisoners, 80% of whom are in for sexual crimes.
Men do loads of things to get access to women, they become drs, caretakers in schools, open hotels and secretly install cameras in the bathrooms, why would they not put on a dress?

And the point is that if self id comes in they will no longer even have to put on a dress. You will no longer be able to question any man in the bathroom because all they have to do is ‘self identify’ as a woman and you don’t have to make any effort at all to transition. So therefore it takes away women’s ability to question any man.

It’s a real shame that genuine trans women such as yourself have been caught in the crossfire here. As otherwise we could have just done what we’ve always done, you come into our bathrooms and we pretend not to notice. Simples.