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9-year-old 'drag queen' - am I wrong or is this incredibly disturbing?

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Foxpyjamas · 11/01/2018 11:19

Hi, long-time lurker, first-time poster.

Someone posted this link on my FB this morning with a comment that made it clear he thought this was cool.

I just thought it was extremely disturbing and a clear example of a child being inappropriately sexualised. The way the article is written this point of view is presented as moralistic prudish pearl-clutching, like whatever an Alt-Right or Christian says must be completely unreasonable.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Alt-Right are wrong about almost everything but in this case I don't care who says it, those pictures are awful. Not because the boy is wearing a sparkly costume (complaining about that would indeed be ridiculous but as far as I can see that wasn't even what anyone was saying) but because of the poses, the makeup, the fact that this is a CHILD.

I feel like most progressive types would agree these days that children should be able to wear what they like free from gender stereotypes, but a child drag queen? Isn't that a completely different kettle of fish? I have always had some qualms about drag anyway (it strikes me as mocking women) but for adults it's one thing - I don't know much about it but aren't drag shows genuinely pretty sexual, like definitely in the realms of adult entertainment? But the article and my friend are muddying the issue trying to make it about the fact that there's no problem with a kid wearing a sparkly suit.

Am I crazy here?

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thebewilderness · 12/01/2018 01:45

We have known for many years the sort of abuse child performers experience in mainstream media. This is up a level of child abuse.

Gacapa · 11/01/2018 20:07

The link on my FB showed the child on a site selling sex toys and the like.

If it's genuine, I think the child should be removed from whoever is supposedly raising him.

WombOfOnesOwn · 11/01/2018 19:42

There are also photos of one of his performances in a gay club, where people are snapping photos of him and laughing while he spreads open his legs and does other sexual display poses. It's really quite disturbing.

AgonyBeetle · 11/01/2018 18:43

Thin-end-of-the-wedge paedophilia, is what it is.

FusionChefGeoff · 11/01/2018 18:26

Have to admit I didn't watch the video no.

Frogletmamma · 11/01/2018 16:47

This is really bad. All very dodgy! Mind you I got my 10 yo a photoshoot (no make up etc) last year and she did a few poses and my Sister who is a social worker said it was too sexualised??? No one told her what to do she just posed. Kids do mimic adults

IAmLucy · 11/01/2018 16:40

People are so busy tripping over themselves to be all 'cool' and accepting that they are missing when there most certainly is a safeguarding issue

Thehairthebod · 11/01/2018 16:36

What the fuck is this?

That video?

Surely this is a huge safeguarding issue? This is NOT OK.

BertrandRussell · 11/01/2018 16:35

Lactacia? Really?

Oblomov18 · 11/01/2018 16:11

Doesn't look like harmless dress up to me!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 11/01/2018 16:11

Wtf?? How on earth are so many people supporting this shit??

TBF, I don't this wee kid knows what that means, to him Lactaters are his (Lactatia s) fans.

Actually, that might make it worse. I'm not sure.

Foxpyjamas · 11/01/2018 16:11

I get the impression that the thought process of some progressives is that "what does the Alt-Right think about this?" is a preliminary to asking themselves "what do I think about this?"

That's exactly the impression I got as well. Zero critical thinking, just 'bad people say X, so X must be false'. I'm sure even Donald fucking Trump has some opinions that I would agree with.

As an aside, if 'Lactacia' is supposed to be a 'sexy' reference to lactation (as would seem to be the case) I also find that inappropriate. I'm lactating and there's nothing sexual about how I feed my baby. There's no way a little boy thought of that stage name by himself.

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FannyWisdom · 11/01/2018 16:09

It beggars belief.

Just say it out loud.
Nine year old child advertising Bondage, Domination, Sadism, Masochism wear.

Funny old world we are living in when any sector or group celebrates that.

HemlockSpartacus · 11/01/2018 16:05

Watched the video of him going around asking adult (mainly women) if they are lactaters?

Wtf?? How on earth are so many people supporting this shit??

guardianfree · 11/01/2018 16:00

Age inappropriate!! It's a basic principle of safeguarding that children are not exposed to age inappropriate images or behaviours.
A child being introduced to BDSM at the age of 9 is a safeguarding issue.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 11/01/2018 15:24

How come he's not just a boy wearing a onesie and some make up?

Erm. Have you looked at the other pictures of him? Watched the video of him going around asking adult (mainly women) if they are lactaters?

Bellamuerte · 11/01/2018 15:13

I find it extremely disturbing, especially the sexualised name which has obviously been chosen by an adult. The fact that the photos are for a BDSM site is borderline child abuse.

I recently saw 12yo boys playing dames in a pantomime and found that equally disturbing. Let kids be kids and they can do whatever they want when they're grown up.

pisacake · 11/01/2018 15:08

pie is paedophile information exchange, the paedophile group popular with senior Labour figures (Harriet Harman & co) in the late-70s

BarbarianMum · 11/01/2018 15:06

PIE?

FusionChefGeoff · 11/01/2018 15:05

What makes him a Drag Queen though?

How come he's not just a boy wearing a onesie and some make up?

DisabledUserName · 11/01/2018 15:01

The video on the link with the little boy on stage with the older drag queen is so disturbingly inappropriate Shock

SlowlyShrinking · 11/01/2018 15:01

The child was also in drag

SlowlyShrinking · 11/01/2018 14:59

There was a photo on twitter a while ago of a 7 or 8 year old little boy having his photo taken with a drag queen who was dressed in a body stocking with a silver leaf over his genital area, and wearing a unicorn’s horn. I do wonder what type of parents think it’s ok tbh

BatShite · 11/01/2018 14:55

It makes me feel uncomfortable in the same way that small girls heavily made up in child beauty pagents do.

This^

nauticant · 11/01/2018 14:54

That, the weird consent issues, and the twisted arguments make this all smell a little bit like PIE to me.