""All female Celebrity Big Brother"

If India gives the trans agenda a bad name and people start peak transing everywhere after this appearance she is going to get crucified by the TRAs.

Nadia didn't feel the need to mention that she was trans but it is all India bloody talks about. A boring, self absorbed arsehole who screamed at an 82 year old woman about being a real woman. That 82 yr old woman was working long before the sex equality act was introduced, before maternity pay and had to hide her sexuality for decades so as not to offend society.

If India could let go of 40 odd years of male socialisation she might learn something. But no, too busy dominating every conversation and making every interaction about themselves. She is a parody of womanhood and a failure of a human being.

Nadia definitely wasn't out. Most housemates found out when they left. I voted for her too, she was great.

I'm just browsing twitter and a lot of people aren't buying it. Thanks BB!

It was interesting watching three intelligent, outspoken women be completely silenced by shrieks of ‘I am a real woman’. It mirrors the experience of so many, hopefully it will help the rest of the world see how ridiculous that is.

For forty plus years, India experienced the privileges handed to white middle classed men.

And now, having made the physical transition to no longer having a penis, is lecturing biologically born women on her idea of what a real woman is - the India version of what a real woman should be.

I tried to watch this tonight for the first time in well well over a decade because Amanda Barrie is in there

Then i saw that Dapper Laughs was going in.............and turned it off.

Shame. I like Amanda

Exactly what I was wondering Always

On a more positive note, I can see IW helping a lot of people reach peaktrans. I don't think he's doing the transgender community any favors here...

I too remember Nadia quite fondly.

I remember Nadia- she was lovely and I voted for her to win. She was very considerate, funny, and a good housemate from what I remember.

Nadia in BB (back when I actually watched it!) Did she endlessly go on about how she was a 'real woman' or did she just get on with things?

Oh I loved Nadia, she was so funny! Back when BB was actually good.

(To Quentin)

Gosh wasn't she? I don't remember that. I suppose it's all been heightened for India as she has been included in a 'women only' show and feels the need to therefore justify her place repeatedly. However, from what I've ever seen or heard of her that's what she does. All the time.

No Nadia was proud to be trans from what I remember.

Most 'old school transsexuals' were proud to be trans. I think this 'you must accept me as a real woman just like you' is quite new.

It is a shame bb decided to do this as it may (is?) back fire on transpeople - the more normal, nice people who are proud of being trans. It's a shame some can't be proud to be who they are, are too ashamed that they need to get everyone to agree they're "real".

Yes, I agree. She cannot change what she is, surely the best course of action is to own it and be proud of what she has been through, rather than screeching at everyone that they have to believe a total lie.

Obviously it's horrible to not be able to accept yourself even after transitioning, but then that's why I think that gender dysphoria should be treated in other ways other than transitioning and then trying to convince everyone that you are something you are not. It will never really work.

Nadia wasn't out to the housemates though.
I just googled it and I loved that series of big brother.

No Nadia was proud to be trans from what I remember. I'm only aware of the "real women" thing recently. One of the last ones I watched.

And surely the reason that India is getting so upset is because she knows that she isn't a 'real woman' - it's almost like she is jealous of the rest of them and taking it out on them. It must be horrible to feel like that but not fair on the other women.

The others all seem like they couldn't really care less about India's 'gender identity', it's her thats making a huge deal.

thehair I loved Nadia. Very genuine person and absolutely read as a woman.

how a transwoman thinks women act for myself.

I have noticed India is frequently almost a caricature of 'a woman' in that some elements are over the top, stereotyped, bitchy pulling faces etc. Diary room (shaved) leg flaunting for example while all the other women have been sitting smartly. Of course, it could be as India is apparently a big fan of the show and hamming it up. And edits may not be at all flattering - Bb has been accused of this in the past.

It is a shame bb decided to do this as it may (is?) back fire on transpeople - the more normal, nice people who are proud of being trans. It's a shame some can't be proud to be who they are, are too ashamed that they need to get everyone to agree they're "real".

"Let me say that again so it penetrates your brain..." - IW. I found the word penetrate an unfortunate choice. Given it was said in the presence of a woman who dealt with terribly abused girls.

Just watched India'a tantrum on Twitter, oooh maybe she will help a few more to peak trans.

Feeling a bit nostalgic for the days of Nadia in BB (back when I actually watched it!) Did she endlessly go on about how she was a 'real woman' or did she just get on with things?

Ended up watching this for the first time.

India behaved very badly. Very ungracious.

Ann certainly knows when to shut up and let the other person rant - huge amount of respect for her experience as a politician. Would never have voted for her in a month of Sundays, but she certainly knows how to handle herself in the brave new world of reality TV.

Amanda was trying too hard, but her apology ended as a put down to India - much as my Grandma would have done. And yes, India should have a bit more respect for an 82 year old that has done a great deal. She lacks grace and empathy.

India gets cross with 82 year old Amanda Barrie

mobile.twitter.com/bbuk/status/949328188764819456

I was when they announced an 'all female' house only to find her have a transwoman in there. It's not all female/all woman then is it.

Tempted to watch this so I can see how a transwoman thinks women act for myself. From what I've read he's not giving a good account of himself at all.