Pink News LGBT heroes....

And even if you believe that lesbians with and without penises are the same it seems interesting that no lesbians without penises were on the list. They should be more numerous in their lack of penis and therefore more numerous on the list all things being equal.

It's almost like the Pink News thinks lesbians with penises are 'better' for some reason... I wonder what that reason is. Considering that there were no transmen, also lacking in the penis department.

It is.

That petition site caved as well didn't they and changed the wording to include transwomen as 'lesbians'.

However, they, in addition to Pink News seemed to get roundly roasted on that twitter thread. It is heartening to see that more and more people appear to be speaking out on this.

Up to a point on twitter they tried to defend having no lesbians in the list as wait for it, they had trans "lesbians". Perhaps someone higher up than the social media monkey got leant on and had a word?

I only saw this today and was wondering what the OP was talking about until I saw the end!

I am totally gobsmacked that they didn't put any lesbian females in there. Not even a token one. They must have realised when they were reading through it that were zero female lesbians in there. How fucking dare they!

Am glad they had pushback on in though and changed it.

Agree about the appropriation of intersex as a way of propping up the 'sex isn't binary' arguement. It's sick. Interesting that Hanne Gaby Odiele said she wanted intersex people to 'speak out against the unnecessary and harmful surgeries many of us were subjected to as children'.

Pathetic....truly pathetic. The sooner the L gets out of this mess, the better.

They shouldn’t need to be told.

"A wider range of figures"?

Well I never!!! They threw a couple of token lesbians in there. I'm not entirely sure if it is patronizing and sad that they changed it or a win. I'm inclined to think it won't change what they do in future and is therefore just a token.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/12/25/the-heroes-who-made-2017-so-much-better/

UPDATE: This article has been updated following feedback from PinkNews readers to include a wider range of figures

Thanks Menthol, I shall refer to Emojipedia for all my future I’m Too Old For This Shit emoji-based enquiries.

This is such a horrid back step. I have no desire to see the end of trans people. Dress how you want, call yoursel what you want. I support that.
Wearing a frock doesn’t eliminate women struggle. I work in a very male dominated environment and I’ve never felt unsafe. I was discussing it with a friend who was interested and I could thank the women that have gone before me enough. There’s crap to deal with and it isn’t equal but it’s safe and I feel safe. This is bloody huge. Denying the existence of women will undo all this.
That’s what I see. Women’s existence being denied. We have masses of evidence of what happens when women don’t count.
I don’t know any trans people in real life (to the best of my knowledge). I’d love to have this discussion with someone who isn’t going for retweets and likes.

I’ve gone away and had a think about this and I am so very angry about this.

Where are the transmen? All it seems to take is for a man to put on a dress, look fabulous and they get on the list.
I bet there are lots of transmen out there doing stuff but they aren’t crowing about it.

Maid - according to the emojipedia (what a world we live in) LM's probably going for 'Sassy'

emojipedia.org/information-desk-person/

An information desk person, iconically represented in the Apple emoji artwork as a girl holding out her hand as if she were a waitress carrying an invisible tray of drinks.

Can be used for a variety of interpretations, such as sassiness or sarcasm.

Person Tipping Hand was approved as part of Unicode 6.0 in 2010 under the name “Information Desk Person” and added to Emoji 1.0 in 2015.

Also known as
💁 Bellhop
💁 Concierge
💁 Hair Flick
💁 Sassy Girl

What about Susan Calman for a start? She’s there front and centre on one of the BBCs most popular programs with her wife in the front row cheering her on.
I am so fucking angry about this.

I do notice that all the transwomen have lovely glamorous pictures. I’m guessing that the lesbians who are getting shit done don’t have the time for standing around on red carpets.

@BattleCunt why do you hate lesbians so much, that you are happy for them to be erased and excluded?

Completely off topic but LM uses one emoji a lot - a girl holding an invisible pizza next to her ear. What does it mean? Is it like ‘What can I say?’

Karen Ingala-Smith started the hashtag #CelebrateLesbians if you fancy adding your lesbian heros of 2017 to the list

Thanks Irk just watched that video - which he is talking about 2015 -some time after it all kicked off - and just after all the straight, white TIMs managed to promote the idea that they are more oppressed than WoCs according to a bastardised pomo version of intersectional theory. But he makes a fair point about male supremacist extremists independently having the same idea - a bit like Stephen Johnson's 'adjacent possible'.

MGTOWs discuss how to use feminism against itself;

I urge gender-critical feminists to remember that most defeated generals underestimated their enemy.

I don't imagine much deliberate planning takes place by anti-feminists. It's probably not even needed because they already have the power.

I remember when MRAs identified the TRAs as a way to split feminism, just prior to identifying Black Feminism. It wasn't so strategic in the sense of 'back of the envelope' plotting - just opportunistic. And you are right about the existing power structures meaning they didn't have to work so hard. Cultural misogyny is a readily available and inexhaustible fuel they can exploit at any time.

But I still think the shepherding of young activists, the media and politicians has been pretty spectacular.

Thanks Quentin! Gonna share that on social media!

Yes, I want to hear about women like that.

When you compare them to the L'Oreal model who makes no sense in interviews!

I wonder if part of the reason the efforts of the TAs has increased in such a frenzied fashion is a result of the women's march following Trump's election. Men saw that women are a sizeable force and will turn out in great numbers of strength, so they need to go to more extreme lengths to silence them.

For me, the ranting about 'transphobic' pink pussy hats was the start of the current madness.