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Woman murdered in my community

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pigsknickers · 23/12/2017 20:24

It's been in the national news today - a man stabbed a young woman to death on Thursday while she was at work in Aldi. She was thirty. She had a young daughter. Her name was Jodie. Apparently he was her ex.
Now I didn't know this woman personally, I'm not trying to be a "grief thief". But like many local people, I'm reeling with shock at this horrible thing. It doesn't feel appropriate to get my angry feminist rant on irl so I've come to do it here...
Another fucking man acting out his hatred of women brutally (and in this case publicly). Another family devastated; a child left without a mother. Another fucking statistic. And while there's plenty of anger locally, once again there's no mention in any media (that I've come across) that Jodie is another victim of this epidemic - of male violence against women - that our society is in the grip of. I just feel so sick and angry, and sad.

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lunamoth581 · 23/12/2017 21:43

Women are allowed to express horror and dismay over male violence. Women
are allowed to vent their anger over yet another woman being murdered by a man. Women are allowed to be outraged at the way society ignores the problem of male violence.

What the OP, and the rest of the posters here, are expressing outrage over is not that this particular man isn't being tried and convicted in the press; but that this has happened over and over and over again and no one wants to connect the dots. No one wants to point out the obvious: men commit the vast majority of violence. And that you can't say that or express outrage about that or analyze that or suggest that society do something about that without someone popping in to say NAMALT. Or someone popping in to evoke the letter of the law and "innocent until proven guilty."

It's understood that not all men are like that. Saying most violence is committed by men (a statistically proven fact) is not saying that all men are violent. Saying that society should take violence against women more seriously and should take positive steps to prevent male violence is not saying that the legal system needs to thrown out the window or that the rights of the accused should be ignored.

I feel sick and angry and sad about this, too. And tired. So very, very tired that violence committed by men against women is so commonplace yet nothing is really being done to address the root causes.

Farahilda · 23/12/2017 21:18

"once again there's no mention in any media (that I've come across)"

Good.

Because it is sub judice, and reporting right now could prejudice a trial.

This is normal English procedure. Once the accused has appeared in court (as he has) there will be nothing until trial. This happens whether the victim is woman or man, girl or boy.

You can expect further reporting of the trial and around the time of verdict.

brizzledrizzle · 23/12/2017 21:16

It was the man who first stopped the alleged murderer, thinking over it now, he was probably in shock and on autopilot.

thegrinchreaper · 23/12/2017 21:12

The community is reeling, such a shock. The nature of how awful it is- to have happened at work while she's going about her normal life, has made the headlines. That fact doesn't show indifference to me, or that it's normal or 'boring'. She isn't seen as a statistic, very much the opposite. A good woman, loving mother and wife. I think most people can see that it's male violence against a woman, it goes without saying.

TDHManchester · 23/12/2017 20:44

God only knows what motivated this man to commit this horrific crime.

pigsknickers · 23/12/2017 20:43

brittle I didn't see that. For fuck's sake...just...argh. Violence against women is so normalised, isn't it? So boringly commonplace. I'm so glad that arsehole wasn't unconvenienced Angry

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Abouttoblow · 23/12/2017 20:41

It was actually her mother's ex-partner not hers.
Doesn't make it any less horrific though.

PaperBagPrincesa · 23/12/2017 20:40

I completely understand your anger and it is not inappropriate in any way.

I felt similar fury after clodagh hawes.

pigsknickers · 23/12/2017 20:40

Ah ok, her mum's ex. I heard it on the grapevine so wasn't totally sure. It doesn't feel right to share my views about it more widely at the moment, while people are so upset, but it's so frustrating that people don't join the dots up. I was discussing it with a friend earlier, and she admitted she's so used to hearing about men killing women that she didn't think about it in terms of hate crime before (which I'm not sure I did really, before coming on these boards).

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donajimena · 23/12/2017 20:39

Thats fucking outrageous. The poor family.

brizzledrizzle · 23/12/2017 20:38

It's evil. There is no other way to describe it. I was also shocked by the man who was interviewed by a journalist and said he managed to get to the till and pay for his shopping before they shut the store.

lolaflores · 23/12/2017 20:36

The case is awful and althought the details are to be thrashed out in court, it is alright for women to express their horror at the fate of an innocent women the victim of some man's resentment and rage.
I just wish it would not be so common. So workaday. Just stabbed to death in her place of work for no reason, simply because she was connected to another woman...go figure

boredofmyoldname · 23/12/2017 20:30

I've seen it mentioned several times on the news today, the relevant facts have been published/spoken. A 44yo man has been arrested and charged on suspicion.

As he hasn't been proven guilty (I'm not disputing it but in legal terms) and faced a fair trial the media will be unable to discuss the motive or relationship until they're authorised to do so by the police.

passmethewineplease · 23/12/2017 20:30

It wasn't actually her ex it was her mum's ex boyfriend. Absolutely awful. And like you say another victim of this epidemic. Seems as though he wanted to hurt his Ex the worst way possible witbout directly hurting her.

Evil.

I feel for her family. Her husband. Her daughter. Sad

Amatree · 23/12/2017 20:30

It's awful. Truly horrible.

I didn't know until now that he was her ex but it doesn't surprise me at all. I was talking to my Dad about that case yesterday and said I bet it'll be a domestic abuse situation. It so horribly often is.

However, the media reporting may well be censored for legal reasons so don't assume that motive isn't mentioned because no one cares. I'm sure many others will have read between the lines too and thought exactly what I did.

So desperately sad for her family.

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