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The trans movement in 30, 40, 50 years...?

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imafuckityfuckingfucktard · 22/12/2017 15:09

I'm new to the feminist boards but have been reading with interest these last several months.

I wonder whether the trans-movement will get greater with time at the expense of women's rights, or implode altogether when more and more young people speak out about ending up in irreversibly botched bodies later down the line...?

I honestly have little clue, but would be interested in discussing with people. Thanks in advance for your replies!

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LangCleg · 22/12/2017 22:12

I'm with McTufty in that I think the current extreme trans ideology will eventually peak and pass. And, hopefully, its legacy will be greater protections for the GNC children it damaged twinned with a better social outlook for the genuinely dysphoric.

But I think it will cause huge damage before this happens. There will be medical malpractice scandals, safeguarding of minors scandals, and women will lose ground that our granddaughters will have to fight to regain.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/12/2017 22:12

It's going to implode, but I'm not sure when.

Once high profile trans-kids like Jazz Jennings or the Mermaids' CEOs son crash and burn it'll kind of be over.

My worry is whether this happens before or after the government abolishes women's rights.

MiMi78 · 22/12/2017 22:02

Any movement that promotes the mutilation and drugging of children will not look good in hindsight.
However much trans activists want to align it with the gay movement.

McTufty · 22/12/2017 21:50

Oh OP haven’t you seen Owen Jones’ frequent proclamations that gender critical folk are on the wrong side of history? He says similar to the rubbish perfectly just said above.

For my part, I think a happy medium where consideration of all parties will eventually be reached, where the public reach peak trans. However I think (and hope) that being trans will be less stigmatising in the future.

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cromeyellow0 · 22/12/2017 21:47

In 10 years we will look on transgenderism like lobotomies, as Stopmakingsense says, or recovered memories of sexual abuse (the parallel made by Blanchard).

In 50 years, transgenderism will be the norm: wealthy people will be growing their own body parts from stem cells, or we'll all be avatars anyway and so physical bodies will be irrelevant.

In that sense I think Denis Riley and Lily Madigan are ahead of their time!

perfectly · 22/12/2017 21:45

In 30,40,50 years we'll look back at the trans movement the way gay people look back at how they were treated 30,40,50 years ago.

Stopmakingsense · 22/12/2017 20:28

Am hoping that the sooner everyone knows that gender reassignment is the equivalent of lobotomies the better. Can't come soon enough.

Elendon · 22/12/2017 18:41

Will be were it was 50 years ago.

There will be articles a plenty regarding the mutilation of young children though and class actions. Which is incredibly sad and makes me angry.

nauticant · 22/12/2017 15:59

In a few decades there's going to be lots of red faces, a fair number of horribly damaged individuals, a large number of confused people saying "how could we not see this at the time?", and a very large number of young people looking back in to the history of their parents' time and shaking their heads saying "how on earth did they fall for this stuff?"

That's me with my pre-holiday optimism. My 2 January 2018 version would be much more pessimistic.

xxnamechangexx · 22/12/2017 15:32

I think in it's current form it will implode. It's not really reached the mainstream yet and I think it will get short shrift when it does.

I hope we will move to a more sensible position where we stop gendering stuff and behaviours get rid of gender stereotypes. I hope gender will dissapear, and sex segregation will remain where it is necessary.

Although it would be lovely to get to a place where it wasn't necessary because male violence stopped and women were genuinely equal but somehow I think we've got a way to go.

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