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ATH appeal for travel bursary for trans women. Not trans men.

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MinesaBottle · 19/12/2017 21:49

I normally just lurk here but this has incensed me

twitter.com/ryanjohnbutcher/status/942714839109128192

ATTENTION CISGENDER PEOPLE.
Can you imagine what it's like leaving your home in constant fear of assault, harassment and ridicule? This is what trans people experience every day of their lives. Help our trans siblings. Read this thread and share, please.

Er, well yes, actually, I can...

And links to an appeal by Action for Trans Health for donations to fund a travel bursary for transwomen and trans feminine people whatever that means (no mention of trans men of course), because apparently they're always being attacked and harassed on public transport. Obviously I can't even begin to imagine what that must feel like Hmm

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GuardianLions · 20/12/2017 06:54

I just dived into that twitter thread and although I read some great responses - I am actually left feeling a bit despondent that males can be so ignorant about the reality of women's lives. I was starting to take for granted that mass disclosures like the everyday sexism project and #metoo actually made a difference. Has he been living under a rock? Maybe he avoids women wherever possible and successfully filters out women's voices (by thinking about what he wants for dinner or just saying "blah blah blah boring" to himself) whenever he is unable to avoid us.
I wonder how many other men have no clue? ShockSadAngry

blackdoggotmytongue · 20/12/2017 02:40

This happened to me at work. We were called to a gender inclusivity workshop where a 36yo transwoman (lived 34years as heterosexual male, married) wailed to a large group of natal women about how awful it was to be at a pub and not know if you were going to be attacked on the way home on your own. With not a single trace of irony.

Cloud fucking cuckoo land. We’ve lived it every day of our lives, princess.

Ereshkigal · 20/12/2017 02:32

But back to the point, I'm sure no women anywhere could imagine having to shell out for a taxi to get home because we're told if we walk alone in the dark we're asking for trouble and it would be our own fault.

If you remember Eamonn Holmes actually told a rape victim live on air "you'll take a taxi next time won't you?" As if she had been remiss.

Gacapa · 19/12/2017 22:38

He's being absolutely slaughtered on there. Many brilliant responses!

MinesaBottle · 19/12/2017 22:36

Making public transport safer for everyone - women, trans people - everyone - would be a much more laudable goal. But as that would require actual work in changing attitudes, much easier to ask for money so you can go on a night out without ever leaving your bubble. Until you get to the pub/club I guess.

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Thehairthebod · 19/12/2017 22:05

Oh that Ryan John Butcher bloke comes across as a right bellend doesn't he? Loved him getting called out by that intersex poster and falling over himself to use the right terminology!

Also saw that he writes for The Independent. Final nail in the coffin for my readership of that utter dirge as well!

AssassinatedBeauty · 19/12/2017 22:05

I don't really care if that's what he thinks would be helpful to other people who are genuinely afraid of leaving their house. But, I don't think it's the right response to that as an issue. I also wouldn't give a single penny to an organisation that actively promotes and supports violence (of the actual physical kind).

I see they've raised £1,200 or so of their £1500 target so there are clearly enough people who disagree with me!

IrkThePurist · 19/12/2017 21:59

120,000 children are homeless this Christmas.
Working parents on Universal Credit wont get any money in December because the month has 5 weeks in it. (You cant make this shit up).
DV refuges are closing.
But yeah give us your money for taxi fares.

SonicBoomBoom · 19/12/2017 21:55

I know, and a massive £200 a month he spent on taxis for his safety!

So, about the price of a monthly train ticket, or to run a car. Boo fucking hoo.

But back to the point, I'm sure no women anywhere could imagine having to shell out for a taxi to get home because we're told if we walk alone in the dark we're asking for trouble and it would be our own fault. Especially if we were wearing a skirt.

MinesaBottle · 19/12/2017 21:50

Sorry, link didn't work
twitter.com/ryanjohnbutcher/status/942714839109128192

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