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Something potentially very important regarding sex Ed in schools

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Ekphrasis · 19/12/2017 09:24

I had no idea guidelines hadn't been updated since 2000. I am quite shocked. Mobiles then were the Nokia 3310s which held about 10 texts and were black and white. And teens wouldn't have had. I still wrote on a black board in School and had occasional access to an ohp. Now screens are everywhere. And the internet, social media etc...

I'm obviously concerned that this is something that is 'got right.' I believe it should also include clear guidelines for primary schools also.

I actually can't believe I recently advised an acquaintance that her developing daughter should absolutely be getting changed for pe in a separate room to the boys in year 5. But I'm not sure there are actual art in stone guidelines on this, hence the School didn't do this as policy ( small rural School).

Anyway, something I thought some would appreciate being aware of.

Sexting to online porn: What should sex education lessons cover?www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-42398911

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IrkThePurist · 19/12/2017 10:20

Prickly has already made a more comprehensive list than Justine Greening Angry

hackmum · 19/12/2017 10:16

Completely endorse Prickly's list.

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Ekphrasis · 19/12/2017 09:51

I second that WTAF!

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Ekphrasis · 19/12/2017 09:50

Some kids' parents are very young themselves or from backgrounds where abuse or sexism and misogyny is normalised and simply don't have the awareness to pass on.

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WTAFisthisshit · 19/12/2017 09:49

Prickly ball should be writing a national sex Ed policy and the government and ofsted should be ensuring that schools deliver it.

misscph1973 yes parents should, but for this children who don't get those messages at home the school should most certainly be delivering.

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Ekphrasis · 19/12/2017 09:49

Not necessarily. Cast in stone and less experienced and knowledgable teachers have to comply. Resources get written.

Seriously, take a look at TES forum threads on things like gender roles (the bbc girls and boys doc for example) and you realise not all schools 'get' what's needed.

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misscph1973 · 19/12/2017 09:44

While I agree with your points, surely you can't leave all that to the school? The school can cover the basics, but you must discuss these things with your DC yourself.

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Ekphrasis · 19/12/2017 09:39

I agree. When I have a bit more time it's potentially something I'd like to attempt to contribute to.

I would like something that helps to challenge gender stereotypes.

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PricklyBall · 19/12/2017 09:32

I saw this and was about to start a thread. Will see if I can find a link to the consultation exercise (if someone else doesn't beat me to it).

Things I'd like in there:
Consent, consent, more consent.
Understanding that coerced consent is not consent.
Understanding that paralyticly drunken acquiesence is not consent.
Understanding that you're allowed to say no.

That sex should be mutually pleasurable - mutually. No coerced anal sex. No sexual positions you find painful.

That sex should be fun and enjoyable for women too.

That no trumps yes, every single time.

That you don't need to change your body to meet someone else's requirements - no need to preen, primp, shave, have mutilating surgery.

That if anyone tells you you should change your body this is not a good person to be in a relationship with.

That if anyone says "you would if you loved me", this is not a good person to be in a relationship with.

That porn is (a) not realistic, (b) often not consensual (c) even when it's posted "amateur porn" you have no guarantee that it isn't revenge porn and (d) that any porn which suggests you should get turned on by violence against women is wrong (I'm thinking particularly of men who get turned on by fantasies of raping or otherwise harming women - these are bad men; I realise women's sexual fantasies of being "overpowered" are a more complex thing).

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