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Defining Gender

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MsBeaujangles · 14/12/2017 10:09

I am starting a new thread that I hope will be a single issue thread that focuses on definitions of 'man' and 'woman' for those that describe themselves as such because of their identity rather than biology.

I know that there are lots of important and related issues to discuss in relation to this, but these are covered in other threads and attempts to explore this often gets lost. It is often said that this is because there is no definition that works, but perhaps this thread might encourage those that view transmen/transwoman as men/woman to discuss this on this thread.

The sooner we have a definition to work with, the sooner we can start to address concerns from both sides about spaces, gender stereotyping etc.

I know that threads have a life of their own, but I really hope that this one can stick to definitions. Even if it means it has few posts!

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MsBeaujangles · 14/12/2017 10:29

@perfectly wretched.
Picking up from your points from the thread that inspired this thread.....

Sex is easily defined using science and everybody is born natal female or natal male. Intersex conditions exist but those with intersex conditions are still either biologically male or female. I think, in line with requests from intersex groups, we should not discuss intersex in relation to gender identity.

The issue lays with defining 'woman' or 'man' without using biology.

Many gender non conforming people do not identify as a man or woman (non binary) so this does not present an issue in relation to definitions.

The issue arises for those who identify as a man or a woman when widely accepted definitions of man or woman refute that they are what they identify as.

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