Woman kicked out of Labour's Women's Network party because her views might make a MALE feel unsafe

She didn't even post it - it was someone else in a Facebook group. She replied to it, sort of telling this person not to. That is obviously worse than calling someone a dickhead

So if you post a meme on twitter (or call someone a dickhead), does that mean you are scary in real life?

That must rule most people out of being allowed to go anywhere.

I think Lang is right - it probably came from a facebook group. Venice did not make the meme - it was from someone with an obvious fake account that does a lot of this - she is basically saying L is fragile (or will go for that angle) go through the labour party and save the meme for the comedians.

In my view, the meme (and also the selfie, but less so) are over the line. It does the gender critical side no favours to be like this, even when we don't think anyone can see. It's just crude and low. And it certainly won't persuade the uncommitted.

Agree with this.

twitter.com/giuliana_london/status/940612282442244097

Thanks. What a shitstorm.

TRA transwoman. Retweeted a load of the doxxing tweets.
Speaking of which, I got a notification from twitter this afternoon that they didn't break guidelines.

Who's Giuliana?

Both the photos have been on Giuliana twitter for a while.

Where's the photo from ie who uploaded it and where?

Is it official Labour party policy to believe that gender self-identification is already the law in the UK, and that a Gender Recognition Certificate is already no longer a legal requirement that must be obtained by a transgender-identifying male person to show that the goverment officially regards them as "legally" female?

I have asked this. More than once. Crickets in reply from any Labour figure.

Reading between the many lines, I think this must be what happened:

Venice took a selfie showing Lily in the background, intending to post it to a private Facebook group afterwards - presumably to illustrate that Lily was there. In this private Facebook group, someone else had made and posted the nasty meme calling Lily a dicksplash. Venice had replied to the meme posting, saying she thought that it was better to use formal Labour Party mechanisms to complain about Lily (Venice's suggestion was that the nasty meme could prompt Lily to up the ante by making some kind of "fake" suicide attempt).

Of course, someone inimical had infiltrated the Facebook group and made both the selfie and the meme public. I don't know why anybody trusts anything to private Facebook groups regarding trans issues. They always get infiltrated and the posts are never private.

In my view, the meme (and also the selfie, but less so) are over the line. It does the gender critical side no favours to be like this, even when we don't think anyone can see. It's just crude and low. And it certainly won't persuade the uncommitted.

CunningOperative wrote - "She said at least three times that L Madigan IS a woman"

I get the impression that many transactivists and Labour politicians think that self-identification of transwoman as women has already been passed as a new law in the UK. In the real world, however, it is actually still a proposal, currently in a consultation phase, which is a very early phase in the parliamentary law making process.

Is it official Labour party policy to believe that gender self-identification is already the law in the UK, and that a Gender Recognition Certificate is already no longer a legal requirement that must be obtained by a transgender-identifying male person to show that the goverment officially regards them as "legally" female?

Lily says to do with radfems personal attacks on her/him. Drradfem replied to this something like 'sorry you weren't meant to see this'.

Whatever is going on the situation is insane.

Oh, this is what Lily is sharing. Venice says she didn't make the meme.

On Twitter now Madigan is sharing this as evidence as to why they might need to feel unsafe.

Now I don't know if they are just a bit thick, but I think what Venice is saying in this message is that they shouldn't make nasty memes about Lily as she is obviously very unstable ('save our meany memes for Izzard and Clitoris') . Oh and she called Lily a 'dickhead' which is hardly threatening. And she didn't tweet it to Lily either, it was in a private group.

I mean, yes, it's not the nicest thing to say, maybe Venice isn't a particularly nice person I don't know, but it's hardly big leagues of threatening behaviour is it?

SpartonDregs I saw Stella Creasey after the Reclaim the Night march arguing with a radical feminist woman. She said at least three times that L Madigan IS a woman and was very much supporting the trans narrative. She was also defending Ruth Hunt.

Why is this difficult to believe? DRRADFEM aka Venice Allan is pretty out there on social media and YouTube. She comes across as pretty credulous tbh.

Why can't her description of events be taken at face value?

I would also like to hear both sides of the story on this.

I simply cannot believe that a woman was chucked out of a woman's meet up just for being there?

I think the silent women Labour MPs are terrified of being deselected.

It is indeed insane.

This is insane. A women gets booted out of a women's event because their presence might be offensive to a transwoman!?!

I havent seen Stella speak up for trans. My hope is that she and the other silent ones are just being cut off at the knees rather than support this insanity.

Surely it is abuse to encourage people to get their bodies mutilated?

Is Caroline Criado Perez on the list of heretics now? What was her offence? (Sorry, haven’t been keeping up. Last time I looked, people were having an unreasonable go at her over banknotes.)

And ItsAll, that is very interesting.