Woman kicked out of Labour's Women's Network party because her views might make a MALE feel unsafe

Unfortunate storm in a teacup

That will be remembered and used against us for a very long time

Women voicing their opinions is not hysterical (HATE that misogynistic word)

I agree (and I used hysterical deliberately). But this is what we are working against - we need to be doubly careful to not do anything that can be perceived in that way

Having secret groups to abuse people like Lily Madigan is very foolish. I'm not surprised it's come back and bit them on the arse.

Loads of solid arguments about the ideology, the lack of accountability, the risks, etc, and they can't resist behaving like children and sniggering away in the corner. It's really disappointing.

gires seem to have an owner of a pr company that works in political lobbying on their list of trustees. There are probably a fair few.

My thoughts exactly menthol One rule for men and another for women. Not equal. At all

I've withdrawn my financial support for the LWN now

But the problem is that the rules aren't going to change any time soon, and people resigning all over the place just means there'll end up being no gender critical representation at all.

Need to be more clever about this. People don't like facts and data and women at the moment we often just come across as unreasonable and ranty.

Women voicing their opinions is not hysterical (HATE that misogynistic word).

The meme was someone else's. Venice was replying and basically saying don't do it. The photo was possibly up on twitter briefly which means someone tra must have had the twitter continuously monitored with all their special software, because no one else seems to have found it. There are other photos up on twitter from the event and lily is obvious in her uniform of dungarees and stripey top.

They obviously tried very hard, rather than just gathering up what was on obvious public display (along with all the other stuff they put up on the doxxing site). And really, it was as bad as when they come along and say everything is all hatespeech.

Unfortunate storm in a teacup. You live and learn, and move on.

My thoughts exactly menthol One rule for men and another for women. Not equal. At all.

I've withdrawn my financial support for the LWN now.

Someone creates a meme picture, shares it on a private group == all feminists who say women are women and transwomen are transwomen are bad people

I think this is actually a genuine issue. The TRAs are playing the vulnerable, oppressed card, so those opposing need to make sure they are absolutely squeaky clean otherwise everything will be derailed with how nasty feminists are bullying transpeople.

It's almost as if the TRAs have got some very good PR people, something "we" need. Watching Julie Bindel and Jane Fae yesterday I was struck by how Bindel seemed to be using the "wrong" argument's, and TBH Fae I think came off much better.

We need to use some tactics here - bang on about the things that are absolutely irrefutable and that people actually care about - the only hit Bindel really landed was at the end of the interview when they ran out of time.

There needs to be a better idea of which arguments work, and which ones don't in various media, at the moment I think we do come across as slightly hysterical at times.

Sorry for the rant, this is something I was thinking about last night

My thoughts exactly menthol 😕

"Absolutely agree, that meme does just look like abuse to me, anyone who thinks Lily shouldn't be a women's officer needs to stick to facts to say so. "

She didn't make the meme, that was someone else. Hers is just the reply.

It reflects very poorly on all feminists who object to the Trans agenda.

Fucking what?

Man goes on rampage, shooting people, with hate note to all the women that rejected him == one bad egg, not all men are like that, he was mentally ill.

Someone creates a meme picture, shares it on a private group == all feminists who say women are women and transwomen are transwomen are bad people.

And people say we're equal, that feminism isn't needed any more.

The term 'two cheeks of the same arse' springs to mind here.

I agree with Thisisouting.

It reflects very poorly on all feminists who object to the Trans agenda.

It is frustrating that atm trans can do no wrong. They make baseless claims. Manipulate and decieve. Yet they are the right on cause if the day.

We can't succumb to our frustration though, well not in public at least
We have to be exemplary. Patient, factual and persistent. It's not fair, but, as always, women are held to a different standard. Feminists more so.

They are milking this on twitter. Madigan is like bloody teflon. He is now the public face of TAs, "Innocent and brave" and completely untouchable. Any slight against Madigan will backfire.

We need to give them just enough rope. We need to be rational in the face of their madness and honest in the face of their lies. We need to show them up for the spoilt, entitled and insiduous cult they are.

WHat a little liar Liam is. First he posted he has no idea why Venice was removed and he wasn’t uncomfortable and now he was because of a private post but didn’t ask for removal.

And what’s worse, so many gullible morons falling for it.

Is it me or is all this 'he said / she said'?

I work with children and I can see parallels ..... I don't think either side is too bright - someone with a half a brain will know you don't put anything on social media that can be used as evidence against you

The issue with women being erased is real - all this shit is just drama and childish

Absolutely agree, that meme does just look like abuse to me, anyone who thinks Lily shouldn't be a women's officer needs to stick to facts to say so. In "private" or in public, it is all public really.

It was pointed out that this kind of meme shouldn't be posted online even in private groups as this kind of thing would happen and it was shouted down because free speech

it doesn't do the rad fem cause any favours and just gives the TRA ammunition to discredit us.

But hey nobody felt unsafe because of the Jimmy Savile tweet

What a place the labour party is at the moment.

I can't link but the Daily Mail has picked up the story.

Meanwhile Lily has tweeted the doxxed meme

twitter.com/madigan_lily/status/940715799261728769

Lily's co-conspirator at kicking out Anne Ruzylo has been doing suicide threats on Twitter

twitter.com/adr1e/status/940378942959226880

Obviously Lily & friends will come out of this smelling of roses and the evil TERFs will be blamed for everything.

she said she introduced herself to Lily but the conversation didn't go too well. then she wanted a selfie with Lily but didn't want to ask because of the conversation. then she maybe posted it on Twitter before deleting it, but she's not too sure on this.

Also she was handing out GRA leaflets.

The Dicksplash meme seems to come from a super-secret unlisted Facebook group which the terfdox person appears to be an active member of and hence the source of all the doxxing.

FFS..... another fecking talking shop shitfest.
Do any of these networkers actually do anything politically useful to help the people they are claiming to represent?
A million miles away from some poor sod trying to get through a very cold week while waiting for her Universal Credit to get sorted.

twitter.com/DrRadfem/status/940713319673094144