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Woman kicked out of Labour's Women's Network party because her views might make a MALE feel unsafe

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 12/12/2017 12:00

twitter.com/DrRadfem/status/940396615008968704

This is what it has come to. A women thrown out of a women's network party because of a man, or more accurately, a boy's feelings might be hurt. What the fuck is going on?

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SonicBoomBoom · 12/12/2017 21:54

And ItsAll, that is very interesting.

SonicBoomBoom · 12/12/2017 21:53

How many of the more notable Labour women have actually spoken out clearly on the trans side? Eg Harriet Harmen, Stella Creasey, Yvette Cooper and their ilk?

Because I'm thinking (hoping) that if they aren't vocally All About The Penis Women, then that means they are gender critical feminists, who just feel as threatened about speaking out publicly as the rest of us, and so they don't say anything.

SpartonDregs · 12/12/2017 21:40

that is why normal feminist mps are completely ignoring any questions relating to the GRA.

Nuffaluff · 12/12/2017 21:30

How interesting. If you're Labour you have to be seen to be going along with all of this, don't you?
'Problematic retweets' are not allowed.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 12/12/2017 21:21

Ok, the deletions I saw were not related to this matter

But

And this may be interesting,

It seems like 2 days ago several (primarily) labour folk have deleted any retweets of Helen Lewis, Caroline Criado Perez, and Janice Turner, I wonder why?

Woman kicked out of Labour's Women's Network party because her views might make a MALE feel unsafe
Fekko · 12/12/2017 21:13

Mavis

SpartonDregs · 12/12/2017 21:13

if this was a womans' event, who is that bloke stood in front of the yellow circle?

Terrylene · 12/12/2017 21:09

Also, if you click on the person who posted it, it does not take you to their page any more.............

Muthafunker · 12/12/2017 21:08

The Labour Party needs to respond. If a feminist can't attend a Party women's event then we are all in trouble. Total madness!

Terrylene · 12/12/2017 21:07

It does not look like a twitter screen shot. It looks like the original tweet, with another photo and added on message. It is funny that only one person saw it and so late on in the day. You would have thought it would be tweeted during the event, if at all.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 12/12/2017 21:06

Apparently there was a lot of deleting going on this AM, I'll see if I can find the tweet

catgirl1976 · 12/12/2017 21:03

If that was selfie it would be on DrRadFems phone

So how would however posted it on Twitter have the image?

Unless it wasnt a selfie at all but someone shoved a phone in her face...

Not very bright this lot are they

AssassinatedBeauty · 12/12/2017 21:01

That supposed selfie isn't on Venice's twitter as far as I can tell. It's an altered version of her original post that had a different pic without anyone in the background.

53rdWay · 12/12/2017 20:58

That photo isn’t on Venice’s Twitter account (that I can see?). It looks like someone has added it to a screenshot of her tweet to highlight what she allegedly did.

Nuffaluff · 12/12/2017 20:55

But hasn't she put that photo on twitter alongside a message she's written which suggests it is a selfie? Or has the person replying got that photo from somewhere else?
(Don't use twitter so don't know how it works).

SparklyUnicornTractors · 12/12/2017 20:53

While I won't jump to any conclusions until further information emerges, and while it could certainly be intimidating to have someone taking photos of you that you suspect may be used negatively, two things occur....

  1. when you choose to be a public figure, getting photographed and talked about comes with the job - and if you've spent your first few weeks flinging some pretty major grenades around you have to accept that some of that attention is going to be critical

  2. the level of intimidation from being included in a selfie in a public place is what on the scale of intimidation and unsafeness compared to self identification and any sex offender being able to follow you into a bathroom/changing room? 'Cos I thought it was hysterical and silly to worry about that or claim to feel unsafe?

frogsoup · 12/12/2017 20:51

That clearly isn't a selfie, she looks like she's about to remonstrate with whoever is shoving the camera in her face.

Fekko · 12/12/2017 20:44

Maybe that's the issue. A bIt of a trump revision 'the biggest turnout ever !!'

OlennasWimple · 12/12/2017 20:43

TBH, the whole event looks a bit shit with very few people there Hmm

53rdWay · 12/12/2017 20:33

I am confused. Where is that selfie/not-selfie photo from in the first place? Is that what Venice Allan allegedly did that made Lily or someone else feel ‘unsafe’, take a photo with someone she disagreed with in the background? Really?

Hope both Venice and Olivia post some more information about wtf happened.

AndhowcouldIeverrefuse · 12/12/2017 20:30
Shock
QuentinSummers · 12/12/2017 20:23

That may be the worst selfie I've ever seen. Venice appears to not even be paying attention to the camera Hmm

UnderTheDesk · 12/12/2017 20:18

This is bullshit.
Women: we feel unsafe having men in women's spaces.
TW and allies: Bigot! TERF! Die in a fire!
TW: I feel unsafe having this gender-critical woman in a woman's space.
Allies: Don't worry, my love, we'll make the nasty woman go away.

SpartonDregs · 12/12/2017 20:18

That doesn't look like a selfie. That looks like a photo taken by someone else trying to get RadFem in shot.

AssassinatedBeauty · 12/12/2017 19:55

Maybe Venice Allan should be grateful not to have been assaulted and physically bundled out of the event, given the Speakers Corner incident.

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