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Yay! I've finally found my gender label

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QuentinSummers · 11/12/2017 18:55

AFAB non-binary femme apparently. Who's with me??!!
www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/d3x8m7/five-queer-people-on-what-femme-means-to-them

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AssassinatedBeauty · 11/12/2017 20:50

@slightlyglittermaned, one of the people in that article seems to call themselves Artemesia FemmeCock... and you don't think that's particularly unusual?

nauticant · 11/12/2017 20:49

To borrow from Oscar Wilde, you'd need a heart of stone not to laugh out loud at the sheer self-obsession on display in that article.

The relentless performance involved in it all is mind-boggling.

BrandNewHouse · 11/12/2017 20:38

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UnderTheDesk · 11/12/2017 20:38

The soft glitter core is the best bit.

My core is kind of matt, but as a gender fluid non-binary AFAB queer queer, I'm totally still all kinds of special.

slightlyglittermaned · 11/12/2017 20:36

You know what - I was expecting something way more exaggerated than that article. It doesn't read that weirdly to me - genuinely curious what we're seeing that's so different?

QuentinSummers · 11/12/2017 20:36

It’s not making fun of PEOPLE outside the gender binary. It’s making fun of the idea that there is a gender binary!!!
Exactly! Thank you muse

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Ereshkigal · 11/12/2017 20:32

And by that I mean how transactivists think of it.

Ereshkigal · 11/12/2017 20:31

I think it's perfectly appropriate and preserving of sanity to laugh at the ludicrous insanity of this ideological clusterfuck from time to time.

YY. Perhaps you'd like to articulate what you feel is so compelling about the idea of being "outside the gender binary", Panda.

museumum · 11/12/2017 20:30

Arghhhh!!!!!

It’s not making fun of PEOPLE outside the gender binary. It’s making fun of the idea that there is a gender binary!!!
There’s a sex binary. Gender is not binary for anyone.
HOW is that not obvious??

If most people think they don’t fit the binary then surely it’s bleeding obviously there is no binary.

Slapdasherie · 11/12/2017 20:25

I use words that communicate what I need them to

Well, how very unique and special that makes you.

I’m pretty sure that’s usually known as talking. Prat.

PricklyBall · 11/12/2017 20:22

Maybe panda really thinks she/he/ze/they/it/ladyglittersparkle is really an AFAB femme demi boi gender low-Reynolds-number furry otherkin frappucino latte with sprinkles person and thinks we're making fun of her/him/zir (oh fuck I can't be bothered) personally.

Ereshkigal · 11/12/2017 20:19

It's such nonsense. You have a female and a male. I.e. a heterosexual relationship.

PencilsInSpace · 11/12/2017 20:18

'rude'

This is what really counts isn't it?

As we watch our rights and safety and dignity and privacy and freedom of speech disappear into the distance, as we watch our children being educated into rigid gender stereotypes, and watch the exponential rise in the number of kids, who have dared to step outside of those stereotypes, heading for the GIC and a future of puberty blockers, hormones, breast binding, surgery, osteoporosis, infertility and sexual dysfunction, as we lose the words to describe reality and the ability to organise against oppression that happens to us because we are part of a group that no longer has a name ... we must always remember what's important.

We mustn't be rude. We mustn't be mean. We must be nice.

Look where that's got us.

I think it's perfectly appropriate and preserving of sanity to laugh at the ludicrous insanity of this ideological clusterfuck from time to time.

AFAB agender ('a' as in 'atheist') transwoman. Pronouns: Me/Me/Me/Me/Me

LangCleg · 11/12/2017 20:17

I am a queer cisgender woman, and my partner is AMAB (assigned male at birth), nonbinary, and trans femme.

Honestly, Panda. If you're going to describe your bog standard, heterosexual relationship like this, what do you expect?!

Ereshkigal · 11/12/2017 20:17

am most certainly allowed to think you are dickheads for making fun, just as you are allowed to BE dickheads in the first place. There's about as much point in arguing about this as there would be trying to convince a Trump supporter they're wrong as well.

You are of course allowed to think what you like. But perhaps no one cares what you think about them and you maybe ought to have a little look at your priorities?

Ereshkigal · 11/12/2017 20:14

The whole thread reads as rudely making light of and making fun of people outside the gender binary.

Yes, I think that's about it! Grin

QuentinSummers · 11/12/2017 20:14

Read the article panda and see what you think.

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ludog · 11/12/2017 20:13

@Double Negative Panda Perhaps if you read it you would understand why people are mocking it...it's absolute narcissistic drivel at its finest. I can't really understand you getting defensive about something you can't be bothered reading TBH.

AssassinatedBeauty · 11/12/2017 20:13

"Sex is a binary. Gender is a patriarchal imposition."

I may have to get this on a t-shirt.

Thelilywhite · 11/12/2017 20:11

I get very annoyed with people making assumptions that I am cis gender when I have no gender identity and actively reject gender.
^^
This

DoubleNegativePanda · 11/12/2017 20:08

I haven't even opened that article, so can't comment on it. Was simply remarking on the comments being made. I am most certainly allowed to think you are dickheads for making fun, just as you are allowed to BE dickheads in the first place. There's about as much point in arguing about this as there would be trying to convince a Trump supporter they're wrong as well.

ludog · 11/12/2017 20:07

Jesus, it's such naval gazing, snowflake bollocks ( although I do love 'post pronoun')!

MorrisZapp · 11/12/2017 20:07

Oh fuck my old boots. Joanna was assigned female at birth and presents as femme. But nobody understands that she is gender fluid. Her most troubling dilemma is whether to shave her body hair or not.

Dearie me.

LangCleg · 11/12/2017 20:02

I'm also making fun of it.

Sex is a binary. Gender is a patriarchal imposition.

Every twit in that article is trying to claim a special dispensation of transness on the basis of their personalities and tastes. It's the epitome of first world nonsense.

Nuffaluff · 11/12/2017 19:59

Gender is made up nonsense. Yes I am making fun of it.
As a feminist, I despair at this obsession with being defined by wearing makeup, shaving legs, etc. As if that's the very thing that defines what being a woman is.
Can you tell me what the gender binary is? What does it even mean?