This just takes the piss now

Oh and yes LM shouldn’t have be allowed to run but judging from my own CLP it’s really hard to challenge things at times - not about trans issue just in general and given what had happened in neighbouring CLP people probably quite scared -

Yes that’s where I saw it on twitter - it’s just an xmas party

There was a woman standing (she only lost by four votes) so the whole situation could have been avoided. "The Women's Officer should be a woman." Lily should not have been allowed to run!

Have emailed Jezza anyway.

That Labour Women's event sounds exciting! Do feed back anything interesting!

Lily tweeted that he was going to that too MsDeer

To be fair women’s officer on CLP is not a public office - it’s really akin to be on any charity committee - and there are way more dodgy and unpleasant people holding CLP officers roles - and if especially no one else stood for women’s officer there would be flexibility in the rules - just found out that LM is going to labour women’s network event tonight which I am too so that will be fun- will report back - if anyone else is going PM me😀

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So this is the official job description. And it says on the very first page "The women's officer must be a woman." And Liam Madigan has no female ID. And the Bill has not been amended (emended?) yet.

Ergo Liam Madigan, a man, should not be eligible for this role.

That is correct, isn't it? I am going to email Corbyn right now. This is just so ridiculous.

Thank you christinarossetti 😘

That's the problem I have with the lack of ID as Lily. Yes, the WO post should be a woman, within Labour guidelines.

Lily can't even open a bank account as Lily, yet Lily gets to represent women in public office.

Complain to the Labour Party. They're shit scared of the trans lobby, and they need to be called out for their complete disregard for women.

If Lily has no ID as Lily, and is still officially Liam, does this not negate the appointment as Women's Officer? Does one not have to be a woman to be WO? I know the argument "but transwomen are women" but if no GRC etc etc no official anything - how can he be anything other than a male WO?

Who do I complain to (again) about this?!

Fuck my actual life.

I can't believe that

1. He has had the gall to do it and
2. That people haven't got the common sense to see through the bullshit.

Starting to think that Liam is a right wing plant to discredit Labour cos he is doing a damn good job of it.

If you look at the comments now someone's posted a screen shot of when he quoted "I'm illegally miss/her I have all the pretty paperwork"

No one's taken any notice they are all just donating or wishing him luck

Well, we did wonder how well Lily would be able to do the job.

Within three weeks, Lily is using their position in order to solicit financial donations for personal issues. In the name of Liam.

Can't wait for the next installment.

@hedlesschicken

Is this a man or lady I'm confused or both? Something to do with labour? Are you sure it's not a bit of a game plan against conservative?

It is a 19-year-old boy who, recently identifies as a woman and has been given the voluntary job of a Labour constituency’s women’s officer.

He is immature, misogynistic, militant and clearly has issues. There is a feeling he is being manipulated by an older man Who was instrumental in his appointment.

If you doing advanced search on here, there are threads explaining the background.

Or just scroll through FWR, there are several.

The name change thing is ridiculous. Changing your name officially is easy (you can do it for free online - they generate the deed poll documents which you can send to anyone) - then it's just money here and there perhaps for a notarised version, or for new copies of driving license/passport/whatever. Ie. it's mainly hassle telling people, rather than hoops to actually do it or money.

If Lily wanted to be Lily, they could do it right now, and have all the matching ID. So they're either lazy, or they can't be bothered to google or ask someone (ok, so that's just lazy as well) - frankly doesn't improve my opinion, if it could get any more disapproving.

I hope someone legally challenges it

I do not believe that Lily did not claim Student Finance, I beloved that he claimed it in the name of Liam.

Same here. It's fairly clear that Lily is being used as a test case on the part of one Labour faction to ensure that self-ID is de facto Labour policy. Because so much of what Lily says is a lie. Lily Madigan is the avatar of Liam Madigan, who has taken, so far, no medical or legal steps to change identities. It's all on Lily's/Liam's say so.

I changed my name on my paypal literally a couple of weeks ago. No new ID needed, just a copy of the document with the CoN on it. My ID still "deadnames" me as I'm not paying to amend my passport til it needs renewing.

So either Lily has not changed Lily's name to Lily after all (despite having previously claimed to have done so) or Lily is a big fibber who is posting sobstories to get free cash.

My son is also running out of money now having wasted a lot of this terms student finance payment.

He is provided with the basics but I have told him that he will have to wait until 29 December for his next payment, so will Lily.

I do not believe that Lily did not claim Student Finance, I beloved that he claimed it in the name of Liam.

Lily seems happy to use the name Liam as and when it suits.

If this was happening in my house, there is no way I would be shouting about it in public when we know that they have other, upset, children to consider.

Maybe. But one wonders what else may kick Labour into touch before this gets any further out of hand than it already is.

Both interviews so far have been all about "people like me"

About being trans

Trans rights etc

He's not mentioned actual women once

Well, whoever is mentoring Lily in the Labour Party is doing one crap job.

I'd be asking the following:

• How can you represent all women fairly when you are taking money from certain individuals or groups who may want something in return? How do you ensure that this money does not come from special interest groups who may seek to influence you?

• Have you declared these sums of money and the identity of the donors to the Labour Party? Do you even know the real identities of the donors? And can you see how problematic that could be?

• Why don't you get a paid job and finance yourself?

The mere fact that Lily hasn't even stopped to consider any of the above (and clearly hasn't sought or received any advice on it) before soliciting personal donations demonstrates very clearly how Lily should not be holding any position of responsibility right now.

He really does think everyone and everything is against him doesn't he.

If he just faced reality he could finish his course at uni/college stay home with his family and do this political stuff as he was before in his spare time.

He could identify out this mess if he really wanted to.

The rest of women, not so much..

If this was happening in my house, there is no way I would be shouting about it in public when we know that they have other, upset, children to consider.

hipsterfun - I imagine they are between a rock and a hard place. Lily has previously called them unsupportive but as we know, that doesn't necessarily indicate that they are homophobic or transphobic. I'm sure they are worried beyond worried.