This just takes the piss now

I don't think any of us are going to have much luck with UK Labour. And I say that as a member of thirty-plus years.

They have the (white, middle class) youth vote sewn up and they are also drawing a large proportion of the new activists from this demographic. They won't do anything to risk that. And, as we know, this demographic has been thoroughly brainwashed on the gender issue, especially at universities.

This is why the manifesto put £9bn into cancelling student loans and only £2bn into reversing cuts to tax credits and universal credit, which disproportionately affect women. And this is also why they won't be doing anything other than support the trans agenda.

It is what it is. And I very much doubt that Angela Rayner thinks trans-identified males are actually women, or that radfems are evil bigots, any more than we do. It's electoral calculus, I'm afraid.

Also that is classic projection complaining about abuse - seen it all the time

I didn’t really stick my neck out - I had one rational conversation- Angela Ito think takes a bit of time to process and may not be wholly lost I have to say that saying that transwomen are men is taken as rude and offensive and really doesn’t help -it means it’s easier for people to dismiss what you have to say as transphobic- I had to say a number of times that I understood that some people do feel they are in the wrong sex body - I think as Jess Phillips said this needs less heat and more light -

They need to keep repeating the “abuse” mantra to position themselves as poor, vulnerable victims. It’s sick given the amount of actual abuse coming out of their own ranks.

Also disappointed with Angela Rayner.

I don't understand women (mainly) accused of being transphobic, trolls and haters for asking reasonable and frankly urgent questions about GRA.

Nobody that I've seen on twitter is particularly rude. Surely to say Transwomen are men is factually correct and to say otherwise is simply disingenuous?

Bloody well done, MsDeerheart. It's not easy speaking up when you know the reaction can be so bad.

MsDeerhart, well done on sticking your neck out!

MsDeerheart

It’s understandable that the general public don’t yet get this, but it’s quite astonishing that people who who support it don’t. Well done.

Well done MsDeerhart!!

Hmm limited - pointed out would apply to people working in refuges and also had no idea about the bullying of the other women’s officer that led to her resignation

MsDeerheart

Before you spoke to them, did this person really not have any clue about the implications of the GRA?

Anyway went to labour women’s event - LM was there - didn’t talk to them - Angela Rayner spoke she was great but did talk about how awful transphobia was - which got lots of applause- I didn’t - this is probably outing me - had a long discussion with someone about why I had a problem with GRA and managed to
make my point I think

I think we need people screenshooting every single tweet these people put out. And Owen Jones who has a canny way of getting stuff deleted.

Well, you’d think, but there appears to be a thing for amending history and expecting everyone else to go along with it.

Aaaaand I’ve been blocked. I wasn’t even particularly contentious.

hipsterfun

Not at all. Twitter is a worldwide forum, the most public place you can be.

If you don’t want it out there, don’t say it.

Do you think MN will be asked to delete this thread with its record of the tweets in question?

Grabby prick

I'd be happy with Charlie doing an episode on it too. Or they could team up as per Nathan Barley

Ereshkigal

More like an episode of black mirror where you wake up in a world where women rule but they all have cocks and have sex with robots.

Maybe it's a new Chris Morris series? Brass eye rebooted.

I would LOVE Chris Morris to cover transactivism.

Looks like Lily has deleted the tweets. Begging for paypal donations via twitter will join the list of things that are too mean to mention / never happened / brother done it

Lily wouldn't get housed by the council anayway - no 'priority need'.

Also Medway Council’s tenant application goes through Kent Homechoice and requires ONE form of photo ID and proof of salary/benefits etc.
The below excerpt is from the Dover council website but it is the same for every applicant using Kent Homechoice

How to apply

1. Visit www.kenthomechoice.org.uk
2. Click on the Register Button

Proof of identity and supporting information
We need to see copies of the documents listed below for every member of your household. Please email these copies to [email protected] - scans and photographs are acceptable so long as they are clear.

1. Proof of identity

1. Proof of income Salary/wage slips for the past three months

1. If you have children living with you

1. If you have access to children that