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Do men openly negate and demean women?

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whitehandledkitchenknife · 10/12/2017 15:29

Hmmm.....how does it work out this way round?

What are your experiences whether in the workplace, on TV or at home? Are some men in danger of not being treated seriously because those with negative experiences of women feel the need to openly trash women.

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AsMenDclaredWomenTheirInferior · 10/12/2017 17:49

StigOfThePlump
Menthol
"It's well documented that both men and women don't like working for female bosses - women being more strongly inclined to voice this preference."

So who in the culture is seen as the positive in it and who is seen as the negative?

We have all heard men say to boys, "don't throw like a girl"
"Don't cry like a girl"
We men don't read books written by women because they are not one of us bro's"
novelinsights.wordpress.com/2011/07/14/why-don%E2%80%99t-men-read-books-by-women-debate-conclusions/

Men like females in their company who are quiet, timid and unassuming but that is not something men admire in males and what they admire in males is assertiveness and aggressiveness because it appears that is what gets respect from others and gets the jobs done.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 10/12/2017 17:32

whitehandled

To be fair to you the question on the original thread was dreadfully written

Original poster
whitehandledkitchenknife · 10/12/2017 17:21

Goodness, I wasn't expecting this.

By reversing the sex of the original previous thread, this was an (obviously clumsy) attempt to look at the ways in which some men negate (as in nullify) women.

My apologies.

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QueenLaBeefah · 10/12/2017 17:13

Sometimes bad smells are best ignored until they go away Wink

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/12/2017 16:55

Do we need to get a fumigator in?

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 10/12/2017 16:46

thedriftofstars

I liked your post

It was succinct, pithy (i think they mean the same thing) direct (now im convinced they mean the same thing)

Anyway...i liked it

StigOfThePlump · 10/12/2017 16:32

And Pistonheads is a bit of a boy racer website. Probably not the best place to go for a balanced view...

StigOfThePlump · 10/12/2017 16:31

Menthol

It's well documented that both men and women don't like working for female bosses - women being more strongly inclined to voice this preference.

When it was discussed on here recently the majority of women said the same.

MentholBreeze · 10/12/2017 15:54

Well, if you pop around the boards here, it won't take you long to find someone saying that they don't like working with women or having woman as a boss because of some reason (generally the stereotypical back-stabbing or whatever)

That's women bashing women though - you should probably pop over to PistonHeads to get a male voice on the matter.

Thedriftofstars · 10/12/2017 15:54

My message apparently broke talk guidelines - all I did was call this GF out for the crap he's repeatedly posted over the boards today. Hmm

StigOfThePlump · 10/12/2017 15:51

I'd say that yes the actions of some men cause the rest to be tarred with same brush.

This was pretty much the point of my (somewhat tipsy) argument yesterday in AIBU. I was attempting to posit the view that the 6% of men who rape shouldn't be used as an argument that the ordinary man rapes, as was being stated.

I think most people can separate deviant minorities from the rest but the ones who can't seem to often be feminists.

IrkThePurist · 10/12/2017 15:49

Negate; make ineffective, nullify.

Men constantly negate women. For example, by refusing to believe women when we talk about abuse.
Or when we try to talk about FGM, by complaining we aren't tackling male circumcision.

Or by insisting women only spaces are the same as white only spaces.

IfNot · 10/12/2017 15:47

Negate? Do men make women ineffective? I suppose they could try. It's not a very coherent question tbh.

nocoolnamesleft · 10/12/2017 15:38

If men don't want to be blamed for men treating women like shit, then

1)Don't treat women like shit
2)Pull up other men, when you see them treating women like shit

Thedriftofstars · 10/12/2017 15:30

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