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Do women openly negate and demean men?

61 replies

jackanorybiggins · 10/12/2017 12:41

What's your experiences whether in the workplace, on TV or at home? Is feminism in danger of not being treated seriously because those with negative experiences of men feel the need to openly trash men. Do women or men trash the opposite sex more?

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endchauvinism · 11/12/2017 00:02

Not nearly as much as they used to. About twenty years ago it was common for women to say things like "I hate men" and "Men are pigs". But not anymore. Of course right winger show hosts have always tried to exaggerate and have convinced men that militant, man hating feminists are around every corner, ready to cut their balls off.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 10/12/2017 22:37

To be clear describing a heterosexual man as "limp wristed" is an insulting way of saying he is gay- not that is weak or ineffectual or a bit wet.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 10/12/2017 22:31

In my original post I mentioned men who identify as feminists to get laid. It seems a bit odd that posters have assumed I was referencing gay men

You referred to "limp- wristed men".

Limp- wristed is the classic, insulting stereotype for effeminate gay men.

And "wet blanket" doesn't mean what you think it means either.

TeiTetua · 10/12/2017 21:58

I can remember a crossword in the Times(?) years ago where a clue was "Enter Mr Jones, self-announced (5)" and the answer was "In-I-go".

StigOfThePlump · 10/12/2017 21:51

In my original post I mentioned men who identify as feminists to get laid. It seems a bit odd that posters have assumed I was referencing gay men - they don't normally try and sleep with women.

MrGHardy · 10/12/2017 17:40

Happens, ofc, but what does it have to do with feminism? What comes to mind are those videos of aggressive women taunting men and saying stuff like "you can't do anything, I'm a girl". But how is say #metoo "demeaning", how is speaking up in general "demeaning"? I can well imagine some men might not want to hear it, but they better get used to it.

HemlockSpartacus · 10/12/2017 17:39

You can't make a homophobic comment and then be annoyed when we aren't all willing to overlook it

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 10/12/2017 17:06

sophocles

Do love Inigo

we did consider as a name for one of our sons Grin

SophoclesTheFox · 10/12/2017 17:03

This is a thread filled with posters using words that don't mean what they think they mean. Makes me come over all Inigo Montoya Grin

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 10/12/2017 16:46

Ok, maybe "wet blanket" would've been more appropriate but I'm here for discussion not semantics. I've explained what I actually meant

"Wet blanket" doesn't mean what you think it means either OP.

hipsterfun · 10/12/2017 16:43

No, you were telling us to overlook your homophobic limp-wrist comment. Because you said so.

StigOfThePlump · 10/12/2017 16:40

But good diversion. Wink

StigOfThePlump · 10/12/2017 16:39

Well that's kind of key to a discussion. Y'know, explaining your view...

hipsterfun · 10/12/2017 16:34

I've explained what I actually meant.

Ooh, that’s us told!

StigOfThePlump · 10/12/2017 15:58

Ok, maybe "wet blanket" would've been more appropriate but I'm here for discussion not semantics. I've explained what I actually meant.

SophoclesTheFox · 10/12/2017 15:48

If you don't know what the phrase limp wristed is generally held to refer to, I can't help you.

Actually, I just can't help you.

StigOfThePlump · 10/12/2017 15:38

That's like saying it can't be only men abusing women...

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 10/12/2017 15:27

What a load of bollocks

If only 7% of women identify as feminists it can't possibly be only feminists man bashing

StigOfThePlump · 10/12/2017 15:26

Hemlock

If you were hoping for some toxic masculinity slant I'm afraid you're outta luck.

As per my "ineffectual" comment I'm talking about the type of man who just agrees with feminists to get laid. These guys aren't typically the movers and shakers of this world.

StigOfThePlump · 10/12/2017 15:23

Sophocles

Are you suggesting that gay men are physically weak? That sounds pretty homophobic. I train with a gay dude who's fucking jacked!

MentholBreeze · 10/12/2017 15:22

I think the denigration I see on TV - in sitcoms, adverts etc. is mainly commissioned/written/directed by men - I wonder what this man bashing by men does for their collective consciousness.

SophoclesTheFox · 10/12/2017 15:06

Wow, stig, so you're homophobic too.

Otherwise, cool story, bro.

deckoff · 10/12/2017 15:03

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 10/12/2017 14:36

Negate doesn't mean what you think it means OP. The word you are looking for is "denigrate".

GuardianLions · 10/12/2017 14:18

Sorry to give the thread oxygen... but. .... Aaa hahaha Hahaha Grin
101 for you op