Liliy Madigan

Nobodies

It's the 'Charlie's army' mentality. Nobody's jump on a bandwagon, get a voice and her loud, aggressive and a bit batshit. Then hopefully investigated by the police for posting threats and offensive language.

She didnt even bloody say anything in that tweet

What the fuck is wrong with people!!

Bloody hell, Oleannas
That photo is the usual pale pink sausage fest that is British politics - which is kind of why the post of women's officer was created.
Instead these wieners have chosen to add another baby pink chipolata to their party.

I don't blame her to be fair, it seems like a textbook abusive community where you're severely punished for transgressions.

While I'm on twitter, Shone Faye has posted A picture of me when I was 19 - the same age as Lily Madigan - I think I had come out as gay around that time but remained deeply confused about my identity - I remember someone at uni saying "you look like an eastern european transsexual" (thanks!) and it being so shameful

WHY is it shameful to be a transsexual? Or a bloke in makeup and a dress for that matter?

Is it shameful only through perhaps a combination of internalised homophobia plus very, very rigid ideas of what male and female people are allowed to do and wear?

Jack still won't align herself with the hated "terfs" though, they aren't her people. Whereas the abusive men are, it appears.

She didn't say anything nasty or untrue.

In fact thats probably that's probably the politest way of putting it I've seen so far.

No need to apologise at all

Unbelievable

I came here to post that about Jack Monroe - she posted a fairly even handed tweet about lily M a few days ago and since has had an onslaught of "die terf cunt" messages, even though she retracted the tweet, apologised to Lily, and publicly apologised (repeatedly, contritely)

This was her thoughtcrime: twitter.com/LilyLilyMaynard/status/937475595675619328

IDK why this abuse is not being retweeted by Owen Jones and co to their fans, presumably they've decided it's irrelevant

ScarletHarlot69 think's it's good that Jack isn't a terf because it's a horrible mentality.. unlike the attitude of man with that twitter handle, calling himself bluebell, with a blog called chicksdigjerks of course. That's a totally fine mentality obviously.

misogynists everywhere.

Wtf does that man have to do. People get fired for less at macdonalds ffs. How can none of those tweets impact him.

Talk about bullet proof.

Absolute joke

OlennasWimple, that picture. Its a good job politics is no longer dominated by white men, isn't it?

I have less sympathy for Lily than some people because I have a kid around that age and knowing their friends etc. Young people can be daft but the way LM has behaved is vicious and threatening, I don't see youth as an excuse at all. That comment about "all that pretty contact data", just horrendous.

Maybe Lily will be the First woman to lead Labour.

They would have to be very, very brave. If she was my daughter/friend I'd be telling her to run away fast. No individual should have to take on such a fight (though Anne Ruzylo has been forced to and I really admire her for it).

but Lily is apparently going to be an MP the women's officer thing is a sideshow

No Maryz, you are not going mad (though the rest of the world clearly is). I can see three women (one on the left, two on the right hand side) in the photo, but it is dominated by white middle aged men....

Not a lawyer disclaimer, but I think that the most effective legal challenge would be from the other candidate. They would be able to argue that they have been directly adversely impacted by the Labour Party's decision to ignore their own rules and allow a man to stand for election. I wonder if they could be persuaded to take a case (and if any legal firm would take it on pro bono, like LM and the school uniform issue....). Though I wouldn't blame them if they didn't want to enter this particular shit storm

Am I going mad, or can I only see two (possibly three) women in that picture, Olennas?

No wonder labour are trying to encourage more women into politics.

He deserves every last bit of the abuse he receives - looks like he can dish it out but can't take it.

"even though they are in full possession of a penis, adam's apple, male skeletal frame" and misogynistic attitude, obviously.

Can this not be legally challenged? Isn't there a piece of paper somewhere that says the WO has to be a woman? And LM, no matter how much she wants to be, isn't legally one as things stand.

Well, the meeting today of the CLP seems to have decided that LM is the new Women's Officer, according to this recent tweet from LM

So there we have it: women's officers don't actually need to be women, even though the Labour Party's own rules require them to be women, because if they just say that they are women, even though they are in full possession of a penis, adam's apple and male skeletal frame, they are in fact women.

Got it?

Meanwhile Jack Monroe, who had a critical post about Lily up for about 10 minutes before deleting it, is being told to 'die TERF cunt'

twitter.com/BootstrapCook/status/938192437331333120

Strange how the threats and abuse are in reality all in one direction isn't it?

I also think this kid (who is a spiteful attention seeker but also not very bright, insecure and completely unsuited to any kind of responsibiity) has been played like a fucking chess piece.
I wouldn't be too surprised if the worst abuse being thrown at Lily Madigan comes from the people manipulating and stirring the whole debate. Because if this kid can be pushed to at least a suicide attempt then, whoopee, they've got an actual martyr.

Lily is on course to be the British equivalent of Stefonknee---the poster "girl" (not woman!) for the Canadian trans movement. The politicians and even the TRAs discarded Stefonknee as his antics became ever more bizarre and creepy.

This whole episode will bring many more people to peak trans ...

Politics is brutal at all levels. You have to develop a thick skin. Loyalties and allegations switch in heartbeats and those loyalties are built on the sand of deals for votes.

God it toughens you up. And opens your eyes to astonishing machinations.