Professional boobs?

Well endowed and ample bosom? The manager's a fucking idiot.

That's awful. The most that could be said is that a top was revealing cleavage and did she realise it was probably too low for work as dress code is no revealing clothes.

If she is like me, nothing short of a cardboard box would hide the fact I have an "ample bosom".

Oh dear, how unfortunate . No wonder she was upset.

When it should have been

“ As you know the company has a dress code which is on p6 of the company handbook. Staff have not to wear clothes that are not too tight or revealing .

“Im afraid that your top is considered revealing as the neckline is too low. Please don’t wear it to work again and kindly check that the necklines of your other work outfits are higher. “

Other things that should NOT be mentioned are

• imputing motives to the employees choices of clothing eg “ attention seeking “.

• other people’s reactions “ Bob in accounts was embarrassed “ .

• anything about her body size or shape “ ample bosom ”

It’s not the SIZE of the employees breasts that are at issue and I hope that no one would mention this to her.

The company dress code says “ overly tight or revealing “. The manager says the employees tops are “ too low cut “ therefore they are revealing ie showing too much skin.

This would be the same for anyone who had a flat chest ( male or female ).

So it’s the cut of the neckline that is the problem, not the size or sex of the body it covers.

If a man wore a top with a low scoop neckline I assume it would also be a problem.

So it’s a factual issue that is not gendered. The neckline of her top is too low.

Tight and revealing could also apply for other items of clothing. Some companies willl not allow eg sleeveless tops ( for men or women ) or skirts / shorts higher than mid thigh or even just above the knee. Some insist on closed toe shoes.

But breasts are sexual. They are a secondary sexual characteristic. Ears are not comparable.

Well I would hope people wear things that are comfortable but in a work setting there needs to be a level of appropriateness and awareness of what is expected.

Some many argue that cycling shorts are comfortable but they are hardly appropriate in an office. Equally plunging necklines and tight pants are not-

A bit of common sense and a robust dress code would seem to help.

Shame it sounds like it has turned into a grievance. Managers by and large need to be walked through a talk track on how to handle conversation like this. It is quite sensitive. In my experience these conversations are best held by someone from HR.
Yup, some of us are busty, arsey, skinny, fat- it's down to dressing for shape and audience. Whilst one of my colleague always wears tight and low cut tops on a night out, in work she is sensible sally.

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I don't think it's that difficult. Breasts are sexual. Cleavage is part of breasts. People with bigger breasts have more cleavage so their neckline may need to be a smidge higher than those who don't. There's no one size fits all. People with bigger waists need to buy a bigger size than those with smaller waists.

Thus happened to me yesterday; I dressed fur dirk in smart ride keg trousers, heels and a loose cream shirt with a thin vest under to cover my cleavage. I bent down to put a shoe on the kitchen and DP said: “careful you can see right down your cleavage when you lean over.”

I didn’t realise. It’s so difficult sometimes to not appear like I’m letting it all hang out.

Mince - in every other department he was a big lad ...it wasn't a great look ....

Good call ginandbearit! Not appropriate for work!

If she's wearing office dress, I should think that the complainants need to be told to get over themselves and concentrate on their work.

Count - I'm a male ex nurse and as a ward manager in a psychiatric unit sent home a male nurse who was wearing lycra cycling shorts which outlined his little chipolata in some detail . Summer on the wards was always stuffy and hot and appropriate clothing that was comfortable and professional could be a difficult call for some of our staff .

I have largish boobs, and I find that tops and dresses have a tendency to change position through the day. Stretchy tops are particularly bad, they lose their spring through the day and start to sag. I glance down and realise I have 2 inches of cleavage showing.

My solution is to wear a close fitting camivest under almost everything.

I don't however see how work could discipline me over my top going a bit saggy without my knowledge.

Could you discipline a man for having a visible semi-hardon in his trousers?

I think it 's automatically harder for women with bigger breasts to look professional. I'm the other extreme and i could wear anything and nobody would bat an eyelid so it is unfair that big breasts are seen as unprofessional and sexy when small breasts aren't.

No shoulders on show?! So no armless tops or dresses. By much.

I emailed bravissimo a couple of years ago about the dresses they sell as work wear having too low necklines, they have improved to some extent I notice.

I can remember being sent off the shop floor in my 20's because of my chipped nail varnish. I had a quick manicure on my lunch break. I can't imagine what would have been said if my clothes were ill fitting and crumpled. But yes I was in the beauty industry.