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Lily Madigan, TIM, elected Labour women's officer

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jMillicentFawcett · 20/11/2017 05:17

Lily is 19. Lily was instrumental in the hate campaign against Anne Ruzylo which resulted in her standing down.

You have to be a woman to be women’s officer but ‘The Labour councillor said that “lived experience as a woman” should be considered an advantage — but not a prerequisite — for the role of women’s officer.’

Lily could also have gone for the LGBT officer role but they didn’t want that. No, they wanted to show women that they can shit all over them and we will applaud them for doing it.

I’m absolutely furious about this ( as you can probably tell)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-teenager-lily-madigan-voted-in-as-a-labour-women-s-officer-mwchkhzq8?shareToken=472df23aa6315582a4f6558d7a1be5ba

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TheGrumpySquirrel · 25/11/2017 21:28

From women'a liberation front .

Lily Madigan, TIM, elected Labour women's officer
CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 25/11/2017 21:19

I love Lucy! And whoever Charlotte is on that conversation with OJ.

He is going to find himself without a job soon I think. The tide is turning at the Guardian. I can't believe he's too embroiled to see it.

woman11017 · 25/11/2017 21:19

Trump, Corbyn, Farage, Isis, TRAs. All the same problem. All happening at the same time. All for the same reason.
It's not liberalism in any way, they've just weaponised the bit that is useful to take down the our rights. Old tricks with new approach. I don't think it's a coincidence that this Liam kid is 19. My own and friends' sons of similar ages have been tricked into believing that to oppose TRA is to be a hopeless reactionary. It's quite khmer rougey, as in denounce the feminist mums.

badbadhusky · 25/11/2017 21:10

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NettleTea · 25/11/2017 21:05

think Lily too busy being on the 'reclaim the night march' tonight

WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 25/11/2017 21:03

OK RedToothBrush I'll rephrase it. I would call myself fairly liberal minded, but I've reached my limit with this issue.

kua · 25/11/2017 20:55

Owen Jones and others are going after The Times journalist Lucy Bannerman @timeslucy.
Lily/Liam is backtracking on Twitter saying he had not applied for the programme. Liam seems to struggle with the truth....

RedToothBrush · 25/11/2017 20:13

Yup, it's depressing all right. I've definitely reached my limit of liberalism. Liam is a massive step too far.

Its not liberalism. Its post-liberalism (formerly known as authoritarianism).

WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 25/11/2017 17:13

Yup, it's depressing all right. I've definitely reached my limit of liberalism. Liam is a massive step too far.

NettleTea · 25/11/2017 16:22

Its all too depressing tbh

W8what · 25/11/2017 16:18

Well, i danno, he’s said he’s a woman cos he likes clothes and boys, thats good enough for ireland and its good enough for me!!

On a serious note, people are lauding ireland for letting blokes into womens changing rooms like they are so progressive but a woman cant even get an abortion!! Just wtf. sez. It. All.

Datun · 25/11/2017 16:16

He is striking me more and more like a bit of a chippy, sexist loser who has found a wonderful loophole to exploit.

And be feted for it.

WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 25/11/2017 16:11

This man, and he is a man, although at 19 he's barely even that, strikes me as some spoilt little brat who has decided he wants to cause trouble. I'd like to know (sorry, not read all posts here) how far along with the transitioning he's gone other than deciding to call himself by a woman's name and wear a bit of pink.

birdsdestiny · 25/11/2017 16:11

I watched that interview the other night, suburban. It was fabulous, Greers facial expressions were just priceless. Her badly hidden irritation really cheered me up.

Superlandlady · 25/11/2017 15:59

WE WOMEN are constantly insulted and offended, but nobody gives a damn.

We just have to put up with it.

SuburbanRhonda · 25/11/2017 15:51

People need more life experience so they can learn to say 'fuck off' to things which are wrong and not just blindly accept crap in the name of diversity.

That reminds me of the Germaine Greer interview where Kirsty Wark asks Greer if she understands that a transwoman might feel it insulting that Greer doesn’t consider them a woman, and Greer simply says “I don’t care! People get insulted all the time!”

Grin
hackmum · 25/11/2017 14:06

Yup, exactly norah. This is further evidence that many so-called trans activists are simply men's rights activists in disguise (not a very convincing disguise, in Lily's case). The depressing thing about it is that senior people in the Labour party are apparently too frigging stupid to spot it.

Traffig · 25/11/2017 13:58

ShockJust read the whole thread, waited all week to have the time to do it.
I live out in the sticks, retired on health grounds after decades of fighting.
Stunned and stunned again the more I read...and now angry as hell.

FFS, this like a throw back to Freud's "penis envy".

Can't be having this... got to saddle up the horses.Angry

norahnamechange · 25/11/2017 13:45

Wow:
Lily complaining about men being excluded from Race for Life? Just like he complained about and harassed Anne Ruzylo until she resigned as women's officer.
And here is the Labour party promoting an avowed MRA as a woman's officer - in plain sight!

W8what · 25/11/2017 13:44

Lily is my worse nightmare dear god, yes its exactly the same as the whole scale oppression of black people in the USA. Exactly the same. He’s broken his brain, thats the only explanation for this.

W8what · 25/11/2017 13:38

Its so depressing.

www.aroomofourown.org/erasure-the-new-normal-for-lesbians-by-vabvoc/

Owen jones is a toyal w*nkee

MaryMaryQuiteLovely · 25/11/2017 13:34

I got as far as
"I want people to be themselves. If a woman doesn't want to have a penis, she doesn't have to have one. If she wants to keep it, or doesn't want the surgery, she shouldn't do it. She is a woman either way."

FFS

pisacake · 25/11/2017 13:33

I have only a couple of occasions gone down the trans rabbit hole on Reddit.

I saw a pro-trans thread on a far-right subreddit once and I WTFed.

Mumsnet is much better for this.

I had a quick look for Reddit lesbian subs:

www.reddit.com/r/LesbianActually/ says

"Referring to a trans woman as anything other than a woman or a trans woman will not be tolerated"

www.reddit.com/r/actuallesbians/ says

"/r/actuallesbians — a place for cis and trans lesbians"

Apparently this:

www.reddit.com/r/HomosexualWomen/

Is the actual lesbian forum.

It has only 275 subscribers

Fairyflaps · 25/11/2017 13:24

Aged 15, Lily complained to Race for Life that they were discriminatory for not allowing men to take part. Compared men not being allowed to race with Rosa Parks being asked to give up her seat to a white person.
twitter.com/jmer64/status/934406259503190017

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