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Guardian Article today - bullying of GC women

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PlateSpinnin · 19/11/2017 08:32

Hi,

I've name changed but I'm an occasional poster. I regretted closing my account (worried about security after someone made a veiled threat about being able to trace any poster a few months ago) but there have been so many interesting discussions of late in which I was desperate to get involved. I have learned so much from everyone. Thanks so much. I've also been feeling a bit isolated - I think some of my friends think I'm obsessed and I have had others keeping their distance.

I'm in the public sector and this issue is completely monopolising my job. I've gone public regarding my concerns - I've had a lot of private support at a senior level but I think everyone is just so shit-scared (and also happy for me to fight it on everyone else's behalf).

Anyway. This is interesting in todays Guardian. I wonder if the headline was deliberately vague as to the nature of the bullying that she was going to discuss. Love that she cites Owen Jones as an example.

www.theguardian.com/society/commentisfree/2017/nov/19/bullies-everywhere-take-delight-in-coming-up-with-new-insults

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Tinycitrus · 19/11/2017 10:44

I’m pleased the debate has reached mainstream media.

Love that she calls out Owen Jones - and it is brave of her.

Mumsnut · 19/11/2017 10:37

Unfortunately, Linda Bellos is getting a kicking today@

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5096695/Labour-feminist-hero-faces-axe-transgender-row.html

The right-wing is an ally to women on this issue, the left an enemy. It's an incomprehensible world.

ferntwist · 19/11/2017 10:19

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AwkwardSquad · 19/11/2017 10:15

There’s this article in the Guardian/Observer today as well, about the Tavistock clinic Tavistock

Whilst I have some issues with the article (for example, it cites examples of transphobia as reasons for a hostile environment in which to attempt a more discursive approach, but no reference to TRAs’ role in this), it is at least more nuanced than much of the recent debate.

Particularly this, from the Trust’s head of psychology: “We cannot be too sure in promoting physical intervention for young people when we feel there are development possibilities in which they may come to feel differently.”

AssignedPerfectAtBirth · 19/11/2017 10:13

Peter Hitchins in the Mail
hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2017/11/the-transgender-zealots-are-destroying-truth-itself.html

Catsrus · 19/11/2017 10:06

I’ve just read it. Thank goodness, belated by the guardian, but the penny is finally dropping that we need to have a public debate about the GRA.

AssignedPerfectAtBirth · 19/11/2017 10:03

Brilliant. And I love Catherine Bennett. She like a terrier on a ratting and doesn't give up.

busyboysmum · 19/11/2017 10:02

The Times is amazing at the moment. Finally people are waking up.

Natsku · 19/11/2017 10:01

Can anyone share those Times articles with share tokens please?

Natsku · 19/11/2017 10:01

Good article, like how it references Janice Turner and her articles saying it was "reported brilliantly"

DamsonGin · 19/11/2017 09:49

Good article.

Knusper · 19/11/2017 09:35

Well done Bennett. I wish that the Guardian wasn't so scared of comments. I'd love gauge reaction to this article.

QueenLaBeefah · 19/11/2017 09:13

I wonder if the guardian has seen a significant drop in their female readership?

It was a good article and the first time I've clicked on a Guardian article for well over a year.

badbadhusky · 19/11/2017 09:13

Well said Catherine Bennett! It is great to see some solidarity emerging publicly between journalists who have concerns about this.

morningrunner · 19/11/2017 09:02

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cuirderussie · 19/11/2017 08:44

I was just going to link that article...looks like the Guardian is starting to belatedly get it. The whining Owen Joneses are complaining about an "onslaught" in the press against trans people when all it is is people actually debating it openly. Which is where their unreason and bullying comes into the open.