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Does reaching peak trans really mean anti ^all^ trans?

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Goatgirly · 13/11/2017 21:05

A few months ago I reached peak trans, because of the way trans activists behave to women, because children are encouraged to make decisions that no-one of their age is capable of making, because trans women with fully working male genitals should not have access to anywhere that is solely for women, whether that place is a changing room, ladies' loos, women's prison or wherever.

I've been informed that I am a terf, but this is mainly because I am against the extreme stance that some trans women have taken.

On the whole I have no issue with trans people at all, it wasn't even on my radar until fairly recently, when I stumbled apon Twitter and found ridiculous trans ideological posts, that biology is is a social construct and gender and stereotypes rule. I then found out about die cis scum, the cotton ceiling, and other delightful things that prove to me that certain trans women are just mysoginistic men and identifying as a woman hasn't changed that.

But at the same time, I still don't have a problem with most (assuming it's most?) trans people, although having read the Janice Turner article in the times the other day, I feel bad that young lesbians can't be who they are and wear what they want to wear without feeling they would be better off being men.

So, am I just confusing the issue? Is it possible to reach peak trans yet not really have a problem with trans people? Can I hold these views when my deep down opinion is that individuals can wear what they want, call themselves what they like, look how they want, do what they need to be happy, but they will still be the born sex that they are in every cell of their body, even if they have removed certain parts of that body, because that's how biology works?
I guess I'm just confused about how I feel at the whole thing.

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busyboysmum · 13/11/2017 21:23

I'm the same. Live how you wish I am fully supportive of you. Just don't expect me to join in your delusion. I will be kind though to individuals.

Goatgirly · 13/11/2017 21:22

It's the illusion part I'm struggling with.

OlennasWimple, I don't suppose you have any names so I can follow them on Twitter?

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OlennasWimple · 13/11/2017 21:10

Many transmen and transwomen acknowledge that they haven't - and can't ever - change biological sex. Many transmen and women are ashamed of what is being done purportedly in their name.

I'm fully supportive of those people, whilst completely against anyone who is essentially an old fashioned misogynist bigot reinvented for the 21st century

BeyondNoone · 13/11/2017 21:08

I'd say the majority of people who have peaked have no issue with individuals, but on a sliding scale as to how far they will maintain any illusion.