Feminist Discrimination

I've noticed that, Genghis.

Monty Don is an utter bastard, chuntering on about hardy perennials and those bloody grapes in his greenhouse. The bigot.

Not once did he mention Kanye West.

Or toffees.

I was watching Gardeners World the other day and it was incredibly discriminatory against people who aren't interested in gardening. Our existence wasn't even acknowledged

Bertrand I reckon the OP is a GF and has no interest in engaging.

I can't believe this.

Tom Robinson is straight?

It's the 'as such' that is so especially ludicrous in the passage quoted above!
'He campaigns against the discrimination against BME people, as as such discriminates against white people'

Terrible that the Woman's Hour is now on 24 hours a day on all channels Should be either 24 hours on half the channels or 12 hours on all of them.

Oh, wait, it's 1 hour, 5 days a week on 1 channel? Well...

Bertrand does it also work the other way around when men are mansplaining what women say or are getting aggressive when someone is point8ng the finger at what they do (and they dint like it?)??

The OP seems to have disappeared.
What a shame....

"What a lot of shite"

It's people like you who give feminists a bad name. We need to find ways to engage with men! We can't expect them to be on our side and support us if we're shorty and aggressive. And it is all about equality, after all.

OP wrote - "the two presenters, Jane Garvey and Jenny Murrey declare themselves as feminist, and as such many of the items discussed discriminate against men"

These two women are the presenters. As such, they present the programme, they do not decide the programme's content. The producers and editor decide the content.

What a lot of shite.

Absolutely. You know what's worse? Children's TV & Radio. Totally discriminates against grown ups. And why doesn't the BBC broadcast any programmes targeted at my dog? It's caninism, that's what it is.

"Half the population has no voice on the BBC as it is Male, this does not seem to be in keeping with impartiality to me, what do you think ?."

What the fuck are you on?

You're talking about one single, solitary, radio program. It's called Woman's Hour, it isn't even an hour long it's 45 minutes because the other 15 minutes is taken up by a drama. 45 minutes out of the whole 24 hours of the day. On one radio station, out of the many the BBC broadcast. Oh, and they do some TV as well. How does this one program translate in your mind to 'men have no voice in the BBC'? Seriously, how?

I blame feminists for everything. Including Tom Robinson going straight.*

*this is vaguely relevant in the context of Men's Hour.

The thing is, I guess you could make an argument that while there's Woman's Hour, there's a tacit acceptance of the status quo which is - men discussing things with other men. Reports about how a man's wife and a man's daughter were killed but the man's other daughter wasn't killed; men discussing the incarceration of a woman because another man said a stupid thing but two different men think it's nothing to worry about.... I suppose you could say that WH, by hiving off women talking, suggests that the rest is okay and natural and will continue.

You could argue that, although that would be flawed in various ways. But what you absolutely can't argue is that WH is anti-men, a problem for men, discriminates against men, or marginalizes men.

It's too much Bertrand.
There used to be a Mens Hour programme on Radio 5, but not enough women listened so they had to pull the plug. The one place to cover men's issues, and the women ruined it. I blame feminists. No interest at all in men's issues. Not surprising they are so marginalised.

yawn

"women talking... for a whole hour

Well, three-quarters of one!"

And sometimes the drama/book in the last 15 minutes is written by a woman too. It's so hard for men to get their voices heard or their work showcased. Woman's Hour is just the last straw.

Those sodding flashbacks. They annoy me on so many levels. They are absolutely ubiquitous in high quality drama which completely ruins it for me. Then it's horrible to think that lots of people men find such sights enjoyable as they presumably must in order to want to produce and watch so much of it. And finally I can't help feeling I'm being given a message every time I turn on the TV "behave yourself and do as you're told because it could be so much worse" or similar

And Yes, women's hour is a travesty. We don't hear enough of men's voices.

female only scholarships (where no equivalent exists for men
I think a quota that all courses have to be 50% male, 50% female would be the answer. It would tackle the systematic discrimination that prevents men becoming teachers, nurses and nursery carers. And because the men would only be competing against themselves for the 50%, no positive discrimination is required.
It could extend to graduate programmes at big employers too

Indeed ghengis - and don't forget that when dramas feature storylines around men they are usually about him being raped complete with gratuitous, harrowing flashback scenes of his fear and powerlessness while violent women loom and crow over..

declare themselves feminists so the items discussed discriminate against men

Feminist = discrimination against men. Women talking about women and not carefully centering men at all times = omg the horror.

So 'Women's Hour' should be 'Women Talking About Men and Including them More' hour.

Righto

Imagine if for 1 week a year they reversed the proportions of women to men on all media.

Women rambling about this and that on all radio channels with 1 dedicated 'mens hour'

All-female panels discussing topics du jour with female hosts with the odd token man looking awkward on the sidelines

Dramas with mostly-female casts where female characters carry most of the dialogue and action and the male characters are pretty or dead

Etc

Just so men can see what it feels like

Gid

What must you have thought of childrens hour ttbb