We need to talk about the GRA - Glasgow

Just to add I do think being careful is important but equally if people are kept out of being able to talk about this we won't ever be able to organise ourselves (as women and feminists) and I'm sure this is partly what they are banking on. I'm in a number of rad fem groups on Facebook and they have questions you have to answer and if (like me) you have an avatar without your picture you have to send one in with the date etc (so you can't just grab one off the net). In the interests of being careful but not leaving people out who could help would it be possible to do something like that for those of us who couldn't attend the talk. I for one would love to hear more about it and to work out how we can be proactive here. It's all so dangerously close in Scotland and I find men (in general) spectacularly uninterested.

I'm not in Glasgow itself (used to live there) but am a couple of trains away from there and from Edinburgh.

I recognise a few people from Scotsnet and I think there is one poster here who has name changed but met me in person. But appreciate people have concerns about infiltration and I haven't posted much on feminism- tbh the reactions to the debate have scared me off, but clearly now is the time to speak up re the proposed legislation.

I think we need to be really, really careful because there is obviously a leak somewhere and it could be from this thread

Yes. And MN is increasingly known as a place where this kind of discussion is allowed. If secret FB feminist groups get infiltrated all the time (and they do) then I’m sure people will be watching here.

There was a news item this week about private conversations on whatsapp groups being infiltrated. Not sure how accurate the report is though as it was on my google feed.

We can do a whatsapp group too if people prefer. PM me if you'd like to do that.

I think we need to be really, really careful because there is obviously a leak somewhere and it could be from this thread, it's as likely as from anywhere else.

Well I can appreciate that since I wasn't there you may not want to contact me about meeting (although I am definitely a woman and have the scars -literally- to prove it ). Knowing the dangers, however, I won't be offended if you feel I can't be verified. I am on FB though.

There are ways to organise on FB that are secure, don’t worry.

I have written to Patrick Harvie and included that tweet. ItsAll, what do you think about tweeting Ross’s response to Patrick Harvie also. Could be that some of Ross’s constituents were at the meeting and he’s just dismissed them as transphobes!

I'm reluctant to use FB for this, tbh. Mainly because if there was any hassle, it would be a real pain in the arse to have to change FB account, and it links to me and others irl.

I'd prefer some other kind of group which is more disposable if you like.

But I would like to meet!

How many people made it to the talk?

The protesters sounds absolutely unhinged.

I'm in Edinburgh and struggle to get time these days, but increasingly concerned about this and will complete the consultation. Not sure I can do anything FB related, how secure is it? One of my FB friends is very active in trans rights so wary of what I put on there.

Sonic hi! Was lovely to meet you!

Ok if everyone PMs me lets make a start - am on phone just now so probably will not be till this evening that I can answer properly. Include your FB account in your message!.

Hi, I was at the meeting. I was in the second row just behind Joanne.
I asked a question at the end about whether the panel would accept a version of the GRA that clarified the distinction between sex and gender.
I would be interested on a rl meet up and I'm on facebook

I’ve PM’d you.

I couldn't make it - had to work in the end, very disappointing. I'm glad the TRAs didn't affect it too much and you were all safe. I would be interested in meeting up to talk about this and formulate a plan of action . TRAs are being far more organised than us currently.

Ps Can someone link me to the Ross Greer tweet about not supporting transphobes, as I am going to write to Patrick Harvie and will include this.

PM me with your details. I was at the meeting sitting on the right hand side, about two rows back from Johanna. I had a cream knitted jumper on and long brown hair in a ponytail. I spoke at the q and a and raised my hand to comment on women only spaces and most transwomen retaining their male genitals. I met Assigned in the horseshoe before the meeting, before I went off to meet my friend in Costa. Just so you know I'm real! Have been posting under different names since 2009.

I’m interested in a meeting, I’m in Scotland but couldn’t buy a ticket as it was sold out by the time I saw this thread.

Jo Swinson is talking at aye write on 24/3 about making society gender equal. I can’t make the time (4.45 at the Mitchell) but it looks like it might be worthwhile going along and asking questions.

I'm on FB too, not used this before yesterday.

I’m on FB.