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So twitter is up in arms about 'transphobia'. Do you find this offensive?

42 replies

HornyTortoise · 05/11/2017 10:23

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I certainly do, but in a different way to them.

They reckon its transphobic and making a joke out of trans people. I see it as the business accepting that Jenner is actually a w2oman now, so surely this sis about as 'inclusive' as it gets?

Where I think its kind of offensive to have 2 male loos, which is what this is saying really. Also think having the 'normal' male one mixed with disabled is pretty wrong, what if a disabled person was female? Having a male person on a female loo door is just silly, and if they want to be inclusive, they should really just make it all unisex.

But yeah, apparently wherever this is, that has tried their very best to be trans-inclusive...is transphobic. The word means nothing these days does it..

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newtlover · 05/11/2017 18:02

yes, that's it apparently-
BOTH pictures show 'a woman' so they shouldn't be used to demarcate
also, apparently, it's transphobic to display a picture of a transwoman looking very 'feminine' because that holds transwomen to an impossibly high standard of femininity.
You couldn't make it up.

nooka · 05/11/2017 17:54

I think it's actually quite thought provoking, which may well be why the transactivists are so unhappy about it. Whether the people who put the pictures on their loo doors are buying into the trans ideology or rejecting it is difficult to tell.

I assume the more rabid TRAs feel that Jenner in all incarnations/clothes should be allowed into the women's loo as s/he' has always felt female. So therefore having a picture of Bruce on the men's loo door is transphobic because it implies that Jenner at some point was male and should not have been allowed into the ladies.

I think that this picture could be a) taking the piss, b) making a thoughtful point or c) trying to be inclusive. I'd like to think it was b, but who knows really.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/11/2017 17:52

This article explains why it is considered transphobic

amp.dailydot.com/irl/texas-restaurant-caitlyn-jenner-bathrooms/

Sentimentallentil · 05/11/2017 17:47

Is there a link to the twitter thread where people are saying it’s transphobic

OlennasWimple · 05/11/2017 17:34

"Men - be a sporting achiever!"

"Women - get your kit off!"

Sentimentallentil · 05/11/2017 17:33

Well that would be easy, if I was wearing trousers I’d go in the Bruce Jenner door and if I was wearing my nice heels and a blow dry I’d go in the Caitlyn one.
Hmm

Fekko · 05/11/2017 17:32

I possibly wouldn't recognise the photo on the men's room door but think 'humph - men all sporty, women all sexy underwear...' still better than those loathsome unisex loos.

ArcheryAnnie · 05/11/2017 17:28

I'd look at those two doors as saying "Males - everything is yours! Go where you want. Females - we don't give a shit about you or your safety or comfort."

Gingernaut · 05/11/2017 17:24

Yes.

Caspiana · 05/11/2017 17:22

Sorry for the stupid question but is that Bruce Jenner on the male toilet?

Datun · 05/11/2017 17:14

If transactivists find this transphobic, I'd like to know exacrtly why.

Lol! Of course!! They think it’s taking the piss. You have to ask why exactly. They can only conclude it’s taking the piss if they disbelieve their own rhetoric.

newtlover · 05/11/2017 17:11

yes, this is the oppoisite of transphobic, this is buying into transactivism, to the point that women don't have a toilet they can use!
If transactivists find this transphobic, I'd like to know exacrtly why.

ladyballs · 05/11/2017 17:07

Ugh

pisacake · 05/11/2017 12:54

Yes it's saying 'if you're a bloke in a dress use this door, if you're a bloke in shorts use this door, women you can fuck off'

Transphobic my arse.

Stupid fuckers.

HornyTortoise · 05/11/2017 10:49

I thought it might be TGI fridays, as they tend to have photos of celebs on the doors. In my local one, I am represented my Marilyn Monroe, which makes me feel pretty good Grin

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shivermytimbers · 05/11/2017 10:27

Neither of those doors represent me as a woman. That makes me feel as though there is no room for women, just lots of room for different types of men.

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 05/11/2017 10:26

Agree with you!

Wherever it is, I wouldn’t ever be visiting the establishment again.