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Article Showing Autogynaphilia in Action

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MightyMikey · 03/11/2017 17:37

Read this article in The Guardian today, how can anyone (even Guardian readers) deny AGP exists. This man explains the glee in involving unsuspecting shop workers to his fetish - surely the shop girls (I can safely assume he targets the young female cashiers) should be protected from this. They are unconsenting participants in his fetish.
Unfortunately, this guy is going to be more protected than these women workers if and when self ID comes into effect.
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Battleax · 03/11/2017 18:53

Oh god that's horrible.

Bucketsandspoons · 03/11/2017 18:52

Bottom line, even nice guys truly do believe deep down that they have entitlement to women's bodies and women refusing it are bad and wrong.

Hence incoherent narcisstic rage from TRAs and threats of rape and murder when women even talk about the need for boundaries in intimate situations and spaces.

Bucketsandspoons · 03/11/2017 18:48

Women's boundaries are to be ignored and women are shamed and blamed if they say "STOP ENOUGH".

This.

I was talking to an otherwise very nice man who was at a meeting of holistic therapists, all women other than him, discussing how wording of their policies will have to change if the GRB goes through, as most of them are women who work alone usually from a room at home and only take female clients. Particularly as a number of them have experienced men pushing boundaries during a treatment to make it sexual.

His answer was we were all uptight and it was just a western uptight thing we had to get over, and cited how he had a massage somewhere in the middle east and was all uncomfortable because it was another man where he'd much prefer a woman. And said we'd no doubt much prefer a woman. He was really shocked when someone pointed out to him that the reason he was uncomfortable being massaged by a man was because for the first time in his life he'd experienced being potentially sexually vulnerable in an intimate situation.

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MightyMikey · 03/11/2017 18:42

This type of behaviour is just like the Westminster sex harressment case.
Women should ignore their creep instinct and play along because it's just a bit of fun. There seems to be a cultural grooming aspect going on where women have to play along with these sex pests or otherwise they are joyless harpies who hurt mens feelings by not colluding in their fetish/harassment. Women's boundaries are to be ignored and women are shamed and blamed if they say "STOP ENOUGH".

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Datun · 03/11/2017 18:23

Yeah I read this. Ugh.

As I pay, I smile and wink, as if to say, “I am enjoying this even if you aren’t.”

Part of the fetish is to force people to participate.

How can the Guardian allow this and not realise what they are promoting?

Presumably this man can’t help having a fetish. But a fetish that relies on a misogynistic view of women is not something that should be printed in a national newspaper, giftwrapped as some kind of mildly sex pozzie anecdote.

HornyTortoise · 03/11/2017 18:21

I'm guessing the masses of deleted comments mentioned AGP. As we are meant to pretend it does not exist.

Kink, fine. Dragging others into it, not.

BelaLugosisShed · 03/11/2017 18:02

My DD worked in La senza whilst at Uni, she had tons of men trying on lingerie and parading about the shop in it, obviously relishing the attention. All the assistants were made very uncomfortable by them.

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MightyMikey · 03/11/2017 17:54

Some of the comments are heartening, most agree it's OK to have a kinky side, but it's abusive to share with unwilling and, in the case of a shop worker, captive audience.
The comments suggesting the shop workers need to get over themselves and would probably enjoy this encounter, are missing the point. He doesn't know or care if the cashier enjoys it and that's what makes it an abusive act.

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WhoWants2Know · 03/11/2017 17:46

“I let them know that I’m enjoying it, even if they aren’t.”

Says it all.