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'Germaine Greer can no longer be called a feminist'

91 replies

pisacake · 01/11/2017 12:30

This appears to be mainstream opinion among young people. Our fucked up universities now employ 'safe space marshals' i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/25/01/45A4A9FE00000578-5013379-image-a-6_1508889824115.jpg in case people say things that offend the deemed status quo.

www.varsity.co.uk/comment/13829

"Greer is now just an old, white woman who has forced herself into exile. Her comments are irreparably damaging, reflecting a total lack of regard for trans lives. Thinking what she thinks, she cannot be a prominent feminist any longer. She no longer stands for the same things we do"

It's not quite clear why someone who appears to be a 19 year old, er white woman, thinks that 'old, white woman' is an insult. But there you go.

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Jaxhog · 01/11/2017 16:44

... til basically the only women worth listening to are men?
Don't think it won't happen!

Jaxhog · 01/11/2017 16:42

Germaine is a feminist goddess. Those who disrespect her aren't worth the shit on my shoe.
This

When this woman has experienced being paid less, disrespected because she's a woman and been denied a level playing field in women's sport, then she can claim to be a feminist. Until then, she needs to respect those who have.

GG is one of the few people to speak what she really believes from the heart, without any of this trans-political correctness (i.e. emperors new clothes) nonsense.

diddlemethis · 01/11/2017 16:38

The foolish 19 year old child will find her career haunted by her own immature opinions.

It’ll bode well for her when a quick google before job interview reveals this nonsense, especially if her potential employer is one of those irrelevant old white women.

She’ll grow up, but her juvenile opinions will be in aspic online. How embarrassing.

Gileswithachainsaw · 01/11/2017 16:37

Shall we look forward to all the young blond women/redheads, middle aged black women, 5 ft 2 Asian women with hair above shoulders etc being slated and discredited til basically the only women worth listening to are men?

MrsTerryPratchett · 01/11/2017 16:34

@AGnu it’s all quite structured. If you are pretty; up to about 40, your views are relevant. Ugly, your views are worth half as much up to 30 when they are worth nothing. There is of course an effect of hair colour and breast size.

Did people not read the Patriarchy Handbook?

birdsdestiny · 01/11/2017 16:33

She seemed to have slipped out of exile to be on Question Time the other night.

SmiledWithTheRisingSun · 01/11/2017 16:29

What ignorance!

Knusper · 01/11/2017 16:27

Absolutely, hipster. There was a lot of freedom in being able to leave outgrown ideas and choices behind in the mists of time.

hipsterfun · 01/11/2017 16:22

All the stupid ideas I had as a youngster have vanished into history.

Tragically for this lot, the internet Grin

MsUnderstanding · 01/11/2017 16:17

....says a student in a student rag.

AGnu · 01/11/2017 16:14

I'm 31. Am I too old to be a feminist yet? At what point do my opinions no longer matter?

Datun · 01/11/2017 16:08

Does forcing yourself into exile mean just having finished a tour and to be constantly in the papers and on the telly?

Gileswithachainsaw · 01/11/2017 16:08

Ha. If she had any actual facts or anything of any importance to say then she could do so without resorting to make calling and derogatory comments.

The fact she can only get her point across (her point being feminism should include men Hmm and that men are true women Hmm) by being insulting says all we need to know really

JessicaEccles · 01/11/2017 16:02

who has forced herself into exile.

How very Stalinist..

Datun · 01/11/2017 16:01

If it’s any consolation, the comments are quite scathing. And if you look at how many got upvotes, it’s very telling.

And I’m sure Germaine Greer would be supremely unbothered by this ignorant twit.

Knusper · 01/11/2017 15:55

Goodness me. What a mess of an article.

A quick scroll through the author's twitter shows her to be very, very young in terms of age and maturity. I actually felt quite sorry for her. She's likely to look back on this article in ten years time and cringe.

Walkingdead11 · 01/11/2017 15:49

Is there a facebook page dedicated to Greer's brand of feminism??? I think if not we should start one....excluding the daft wet behind the ears idiots of course!

WoooooOfOnesGroan · 01/11/2017 15:34

The irony, of course, is that the writer Eve Hodgson is currently a young white woman. How does she not see that one day she'll be an old white woman, and that her words will have made it just that much easier for the people around her to see that as a category beneath contempt?

cremedelashite · 01/11/2017 15:29

I find the view peddled by this young woman offensive. Where does my white 40 year old feminist arse complain?

overnightangel · 01/11/2017 15:28

What the fuck does the colour of her skin have to do with anything? 😡

Backingvocals · 01/11/2017 15:19

As an old white woman I could actually power London with my anger right now.

How dare this person talk like this about someone who basically did much of the foundation work that allowed young women to have a view at all?

Lottapianos · 01/11/2017 15:15

''Just an old white woman'

Lovely eh? Just lovely Hmm. Very inclusive. Very egalitarian

I remember Germaine Greer being interviewed on Newsnight about her views on transwomen, and Kirsty Wark put it to her that some transwomen find her views hurtful. Her response was along the lines of 'well so what?! People get hurt all the time. Try being an old woman for fuck sake!' Grin Hopefully she's pissing herself laughing at these utter muppets

MadamMinacious · 01/11/2017 15:10

'Just an old white women.'' Fuck off to the far side of fuck with that attitude. Just how 'intersectional' is that brand of feminism? Who is it for?

Well, apparently not for old people. So bloody rude and not very sisterly in the feminist sense.

This is why I dislike intersectional feminism it is only intersectional as far as it suits and seems to involve putting other women down if they disagree. I'd say that was well out of the bounds of feminism.

Germaine Greer represents me and my feminism far more than that disparaging 'critique' but then again what do I know I'm only an old white woman with an education and experience and Germaine is only an old white woman academic who has fought the patriarchy most of her adult life and written many fantastic eloquent books on the subject. I mean she only managed to become a Professor of English - who does she think she is?

annandale · 01/11/2017 14:37

The author doesn't appear to have noticed that Germaine Greer's academic field is in fact in English literature, not in feminism.

Admittedly reading The Female Eunuch these days is a different experience from reading it in 1971. It's perfectly possible to engage critically with Greer's ideas on lots of things, she's an academic after all so debate should be her life-blood. However, probably best not to work as a live censor and, as far as I can tell, fail to read challenging works, as training for academic debate.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 01/11/2017 14:32

As a cantabrian (auto correct wanted to put cantankerous for that - I plead guilty) I am truly shocked by what this article suggests about the current admissions process of at least one Cambridge college. They have started admitting morons. There is no other word for it. In my day this young woman would not have been at Cambridge. She can’t write, her grammar is dreadful, and she is an idiot.