Two more women attacked by trans activists

How very anarchist and progressive for the emptycagescollective to be the ones to decide what feminists put their energy into!

Women! Liberate yourselves from coercive collective control through anarchism! Here's our instructions on how to do this - be sure to follow them exactly, or we will organise a mob to come and beat you up.

The knots people tie themselves in whilst trying to explain why it is bad for feminists to centre females instead of males are astounding..

This.

From the emptycagescollective facebook post...

Women's lives and women's services are in crisis in the UK. Defending these services, for example, would be a better use of feminist energy.

Erm, thats exactly what the 'terfs' were doing? They realise womens lives and serivces are in crisis. More specifically, female only areas of life. Them acknowledging the risk and pushing back/defending against it...is apparently wrong. How does this tally?!

The knots people tie themselves in whilst trying to explain why it is bad for feminists to centre females instead of males are astounding..

Betty184

This comment on there...

I'm sorry that Helen S. is a long time comrade of some people, but tbh you need to get over that, and look at the shit she is spouting right now about some of the most fucked over marginalised people in society. Trans people are - at massive personal risk - taking a lead in confronting these people and asserting their right to do pretty basic shit like take a piss safely. Anyone who can't stand behind this, rather than taking issue with the exact correct words being used needs to fuck off.

Yet again, the lack of self awareness is astounding.

asserting their right to do pretty basic shit like take a piss safely

Women also want to take a piss safely. Away from men. Is this really that much to grasp? Yet women 'asserting their right to do pretty basic shit like take a piss safely' are denounced as TERFs, told they are commiting 'literal violence' for voicing these views (and 'literal violence' is clearly much worse than actual violence, which is being committed against these same women who are simply 'asserting their right to do pretty basic shit like take a piss safely') and are basically the devil.

Surely they must see the holes in their arguments...they simply have to see..they are glaring

Excellent secret

Transwomen are women.
Transmen are men.
I was born a woman. I identify as a man. That makes me a transman.
Since transmen are men, I am a man.
I am a man who now identifies as a woman. That makes me a transwoman.

And if you disagree you are a transphobic bigot. This is, I believe, the most important part.

It's quite something. One chap is upset that they are "quibbling" about literal/actual violence whilst the "transphobes" are doing the real ill: "putting up vile stickers in the toilet etc."

etc. is doing some heavy lifting in that sentence.

More from the Edinburgh anarchists site, in case anyone's interested in what the movement's about.

I'm not up for anarchic communism, but given Saturday's behaviour, neither are they:

It is not possible to abolish Capitalism without a revolution, which will arise out of class conflict. The ruling class must be completely overthrown to achieve anarchist communism. Because the ruling class will not relinquish power without their use of armed force, this revolution will be a time of violence as well as liberation.

[Unless us women are the ruling class?]

Genuine liberation can only come about through the revolutionary self activity of the working class on a mass scale.

[But not women handing out leaflets.]

I don't want to mock - but if you can believe in anarchism but also react with (actual) violence and social media horror when women self-organise to achieve change, then that's...quite something.

Here you go twitter.com/mayday4women/status/925337005894008832

If (like me) you were wondering what anarchists believe, exactly, in light of this, they seem to believe in quaite prescribed topics of conversation:

[The bookfair] collective put forward liberal notions of free speech that are not compatible with anarchist organising. Rather than being a showcase event for anarchism in the region, the LABF now actively sabotages the spread of anarchist ideas and methods ]because some women tried to hand out leaflets]

edinburghanarchists.noflag.org.uk/2017/10/labf/

These are also anarchist bunch. Don't listen to women, whatever you do

TERFs have zero valid arguments
www.facebook.com/EmptyCagesCollective/posts/869908503160124

An eyewitness account from this website libcom.org/forums/announcements/london-anarchist-bookfair-saturday-28th-october-2017-30052017?page=2 [along with some idiot saying that trying to establish whether Helen Steel was physically violent (she wasn't) or was just defending some views they don't like is 'quibbling'!]:

The mob chants from the bookfair yesterday were "Fuck TERFs", "Fascist" and "Out". The "Fuck TERFs" chant was accompanied by the trans women making the finger in what I took to be a rape threat. I did not see the same gesture made by female or male supporters. The "fascist" accusation was made repeatedly, especially by one trans woman.

From what I saw the violence came exclusively from the trans women and not their female supporters, and certainly not from Helen.

The attitude of the mob, and their supporters here, is that Helen be excluded from the bookfair because she holds a different opinion from them, an opinion which they accept as Feminist (hence terF).

I'm not sure how to link to an individual tweet but Mayday 4 Women have tweeted the following:

"Cops investigating 'rush' on Mayday & Helen Steel at #anarchistbookfair because it included men they're seeking for Speakers Corner attack."

Datun

What a brilliant article!

*I’ve

I’m trans. I don’t know whyyy.

I was assigned female at birth, but I identify with transwomen. I want the privilege, the frocks and I want to be stunning and brave.

Bloody hell! Who wouldn’t? I think I’m actually convinced myself.

women identifying en mass as transwomen

I think this is the only way forward.

Another Journo who's commenting
(From the BBC).

Come on everyone - more and more
Voices needed.

They will tie themselves in knots with this. Good.

Sadly not a parody. The Trans Ideology is dumbwitted in the extreme and its cult members lack the faculties to discern it

For those who can’t see:

That saharastevens tweet has had me giggling all afternoon. It is a parody, right?

Thank you!

Excellent article. The tweets are so incoherent in logic its amazing.

Here it is, Bucketsandspoons:

gendertrender.wordpress.com/2017/10/26/there-is-only-one-protected-class-of-women-and-it-is-men/

It's such a great piece of writing by Gallus Mag, both funny and angry. She really lays out the bald-faced, extreme misogyny of gender identity doctrine. What's absolutely crazy is that most mainstream feminists and women's orgs are now in agreement with this insanity as well:

There is only one form of womanhood that exists as a clearly defined class of people with shared embodiment and experience, and unless you are a fucking TERF you know for damn sure it ain’t the lowly gestating front-hole havers.

Trans Women Are Women and Trans Women Are Female but Female Women Can Not Be Trans Women.

All people can be women. All women are female. All women, including penis-havers and uterus owners are female and can be trans. Woman, Female, and Trans, are self-defined categories with no universal meaning or definition and no shared experience or embodiment. People who identify as women can also identify as trans. But only women born with dick and balls form a cohesive class of women whose shared biology and cultural experience must be named and respected.

You will respect the terms as defined by your penis-having overlords!

Sex matters, but only for those people whose humanity really counts: Men.

Any media reports on this or is it being ignored again?

datun

(still trying to use logic).

That'll be where you are going wrong