UK submission to UN - "whatabout the pregnant men?"

And why do we never hear about gentleman clitorises? Or be told that men can have vaginas and that prostate examinations are trans exclusionary?

*sorry, transwomen getting women's scholarships etc

I've never seen Loose Women, but some of their Twitter followers sure as hell can cut through the crap on this one.

The O'Neill article is great but he says these changes could lead to women getting scholarships and political quotas etc. Pity he diesn't know about that Jo (forgot name?) mentor program appointing that married man with kids who just transitioned

pretending to be a van

I guess that person would see themselves as a transit.

The responses to that poll on twitter

When is the programme being re-named? I mean obviously it needs to be ‘loose people’.

plus a chance to be aroused by other unrelated matters:
No. I am so tired of the PC brigade having it all their own way. What next? Calling Hallowe'en a "a ghost festival"?! 👎😂😂😂

and if you think its your god given right to carry children, do so. But men have vaginas Hannah, it's 2017. which is from a person pretending to be a van, who may or may not be trolling

Anyway I see Shon Faye 's been honest
Thing about the absurd manufactured outrage over 'pregnant people' is that its a discussion which genuinely doesnt concern trans women

But it concerns women and aren't trans women, women?

They all agree with Brendan though -predictably for the Spectator - some of them blame feminism

Selma - What's the general thrust of the comments? I didn't want to give them my email (and be spammed endlessly) so I'm asking a CF reportage favour.

at this comment on the Brendan O'Neill article.

Sorry, wrong thread

I must have missed all of the publicity about changing the wording for prostate and testicular cancer to be more inclusive.

Oh bravo Brendan O'Neill! That's a great article. It's what we've been saying for yonks,, but it's such a relief to see a different perspective in the media.

But then isn't that admitting that they aren't women as they can only he women when actual women are relabelled "ciswomen" and only when the word woman cab actually be used at all and they haven't pc'd themselves out of existence.

As a kind of light relief...

Loose Women had a poll on this and tweeted about it. I thoroughly enjoyed the replies.

They are trying to be women. And women are cis. If this is allowed to go on, I guarantee that cis women will be a synonym for dog shit.

No purpose, no voice, no need.

Welcome to Gilead.

And if women no longer exist who the fuck are they trying to be

If these fuckwits want to decide that pregnant woman should be replaced by pregnant person, you also can’t say son, daughter, mother, father, grandmother, grandfather, niece, nephew, uncle, aunt, sister, brother.

Because two women, who want to escape detrimental gender stereotypes, identify as men.

Nah mate. It’s not women are pushing this. It’s cross dressing fetishist MEN.

Brendan O'Neill (Spectator) thinks the Foreign Office have reversed after all the fuss. I'd love to see the actual submission from them!

His is a very good article and well worth sharing:

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/10/the-word-woman-is-being-erased-from-public-life/

According to today's Guardian, the Foreign Office says that it has not asked for the term "pregnant women" to be replaced with "pregnant people". However, the UK government is saying that "it has lobbied for the rights of transgender people to be protected in a UN treaty" (the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights). Presumably, this treaty will be enshrined in UK law.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine

I often wonder why a TIF would go through with a pregnancy - I can't think of anything more likely to trigger their dysphoria.

I agree it’s odd, which is why it’s only happened twice in the UK.

Nonetheless, there’s plainly a motive to change language to accommodate two people.

And like everything else in this ideology, it’s coming from men.

The obvious solution would be to refrain from triggering the actual transman, in person, for the duration of their pregnancy. That’s it.

If you’re giving somebody a nose job, I think most surgeons manage to refrain from referring to it as a huge nose, or whatever, ffs.

I often wonder why a TIF would go through with a pregnancy - I can't think of anything more likely to trigger their dysphoria.

I agree OP this is bullshit and I hope the UK is laughed and ignored.

This is just ridiculous

If only as much thought was put onto how to not piss off women as it is into wording things to avoid pissing off everyone else.

I found it interesting that this was trending as a Twitter Moment and most of the tweets in the Moment were questioning it.

Bang. @Datun, you've totally hit the nail on the head. This is all about erasing women, and erasing women's biological experience of being women.

Also, how the heck can you 'dysphoric' and think you are a man if your uterus is quite literally growing a human being?! I guess the trans females having babies opt to have c/s too, or they'd have to acknowledge a baby coming out of their literal vagina!