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Man admits to multiple sexual assaults on R4

35 replies

hipsterfun · 22/10/2017 09:32

Broadcasting House, just now.

He has blogged about it www.patheos.com/blogs/leavingfundamentalism/2017/10/17/im-reason-women-posting-metoo/

I respect his candour but it was an uncomfortable listen.

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NoLoveofMine · 22/10/2017 12:28

For some reason the link won't open for me (gives a "404 not found" message), does anyone know how I can get round that? My parents also heard him on the radio this morning as they've just told me of it.

MissFlashpants · 22/10/2017 11:39

hipster yes I understand that but reasons are not excuses.

We all grow up with an internal moral barometer; he just chose to ignore his until ‘coming out’ as a misogynist became the new black.

nauticant · 22/10/2017 11:23

Yes, that's very much what I got from the interview on Radio 4 this morning. By getting in first and presenting this as "bad but not bad bad" it will now be more difficult for any victims of his to make an official complaint. At the very least they can expect a chorus of "but he's fessed up! why can't you accept that and move on? why can't you now be friends? why must you now be unreasonable?"

My feelings of disquiet in listening to the interview were not that this is a tricky issue and brave honesty from men is so unusual. It's that I felt someone was trying to manipulate me.

AssassinatedBeauty · 22/10/2017 10:56

I imagine he's going to get lots of praise for being "brave" and honest, and it isn't going to affect his career at all. Probably increase his profile and actually enhance his career. Smart move by him.

It would be amazing if the women he assaulted could report it to the police and he could face some appropriate justice. But I think what he has just done would make that very difficult for them as they risk becoming involved in a public situation.

peanut2017 · 22/10/2017 10:49

This has made me really uncomfortable and I find it hard to believe that he didn’t know he was being a creep in any of these situations. Also don’t like the explanation after each scenario sounds disingenuous.

hipsterfun · 22/10/2017 10:23

Miss, our culture does give boys unhealthy messages that normalise behaviour at one end of the sexual assault spectrum, and prepare the ground for it. He’s right about that.

I see it everywhere, and I’m having to think very hard about it now I’m raising a son.

nauticant, I know what you mean, but I still think it’s important to call out the behaviour for what it is.

How would a man have to talk about this without it sounding like minimising? I heard a young man admitting to rape, but maybe I heard what I wanted to hear...

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MissFlashpants · 22/10/2017 09:50

What a shame for him that nobody ever taught him the difference between consensual and non-consensual touching. Hmm

Nobody ever teaches women either and we don’t go around touching dicks on first dates repeatedly, or sending pictures of our fannies to strangers.

Fuck this guy. He feels so fucking good about his enlightened self, doesn’t he?

nauticant · 22/10/2017 09:42

I am left with the feeling that some of the media savvy younger men have decided to do a bit of self-flagellating over this (while minimising which is what was going on in that interview) to put themselves apart from the "real bad guys".

It looks like they're seeking to take the bite out of any allegations that might be heading their way while buffing up their reputation at the same time.

W0rriedMum · 22/10/2017 09:40

That was a difficult read alright. I imagine a lot of men have similar stories but don't see the problem.
The fat shaming one and sleeping with someone who wants a relationship are the two that jump out as being prevalent.

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