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Number of trans people who are murderers is greater than the number of trans people who are murder victims in UK **Title amended by MNHQ**

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WombOfOnesOwn · 20/10/2017 01:59

This year, the number of murderers who are transgender is higher in the UK than the number of murder victims.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4156440/Transgender-woman-boyfriend-murdered-flatmate.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4997224/Father-two-stabbed-death-transgender-woman.html

And then there's attempted murders and current murderers declaring themselves trans while behind bars:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jailed-killer-who-chopped-testicles-9882176

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-murderer-moved-womens-prison-9770465

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-woman-accused-trying-murder-9569383

www.thesun.co.uk/news/2193637/transgender-female-running-champ-to-be-detained-in-hospital-after-trying-to-murder-top-uk-athletics-official/

Does the fact that MTFs are victimizers in these obscenely violent criminal acts more frequently than they are victims change how lawmakers will see their claims of eternal victimhood? I doubt it. How many male murderers will have to be given elective surgery at taxpayer expense and housed with women (far less likely to be in prison for violent crime) before someone takes a long, hard look at the reality of the situation?

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Feminist4 · 14/10/2018 14:45

Because a transgender man looks like a man. Lemon Jello You are wrong, I am saying the opposite.

Hyppolyta · 14/10/2018 14:41

Why on earth would a transman scare a girl?

Transmen are female.

LemonJello · 14/10/2018 14:41

But seriously it’s great that you recognise that transwomen are simply dressing as women and they are not actually women. Progress! 👍

LemonJello · 14/10/2018 14:40

Feminist4

Transgender women don't just want to dress as women for fun.

Also Feminist4

Your assertion that transgender women are men in dresses is so transist.

😂😂😂

Feminist4 · 14/10/2018 14:36

Your assertion that transgender women are men in dresses is so transist. If a transgender man enters a female safe space and frightens a girl, who feels threatened, Is that alright then?

Trousered · 14/10/2018 14:29

I recommend this video for anyone despairing of the sanity of the nation.

Fionne and Miranda are the antidote to the manipulative shite that's on tonight on ITV.

Hyppolyta · 14/10/2018 14:21

Understand what?

Thats its perfectly fine for a man to wear dresses and makeup, or fpr women can vote and hold important jobs, without changing sex?

Then explain.
What way do women live, that men dont?

Feminist4 · 14/10/2018 14:20

That's because you don't understand.

Hyppolyta · 14/10/2018 14:18

How do you dress/ act/ live as a woman anyway?

I hate those phrases its such sexist crap. Whatever a woman does is how a woman does it... and same for men. A man cant live as a woman, its utter rubbish.

Feminist4 · 14/10/2018 14:06

Transgender women don't just want to dress as women for fun. It's much more deep routed than that.

Feminist4 · 14/10/2018 14:03

Why oh why won't you see that there is a difference between being gentle and being a girl that is neuroligsl and not about genitalia. Transgender people are surely better able to understand this.

Trousered · 14/10/2018 14:00

Oh why oh why oh why won't you just pretend baby brains are born in the wrong baby body sometimes and if a boy is gentle then he's a girl and other girls have to be nice to the boy girls or you will be making bad men kill and rape them and they will all die. If you are nice all the bad men will like you and will come and shower and change with you and be lovely to you.

People with this level of grasp on reality are actually pushing through laws?

Feminist4 · 14/10/2018 13:56

How dare, I mean.

Feminist4 · 14/10/2018 13:54

Ow date you say you don't believe what I say. I'm entirely consistent as the mother of a transgender daughter. It is having threads that imply transgender women are a danger rather than in danger which is so destructive. Lock this thread so you only hear the voice of people who agree with you. The suffragettes would be ashamed of you.

Datun · 14/10/2018 13:45

Yes, lock the thread. But keep it. The last section is textbook argument. Every last bit of it.

Which is the whole point.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 14/10/2018 12:52

I think the whole final section needs zapping to be honest - but yes - keep the thread.

RedDogsBeg · 14/10/2018 12:39

I'd agree with that Floral, the Feminist4 poster is not posting in good faith as evidenced by other old threads they are bumping.

FloralBunting · 14/10/2018 12:35

I'm requesting that @MNHQ lock this thread, not hide it or delete it. The information posted at the front is useful, but the frankly offensive posts from Feminist4 are highly suspect and upsetting for those of us who have a touch more credibility around some of the issues being used as cheap gotchas here.

@MNHQ, please step up on this one. It's goadier than an insane Billy goat, and it seems to be for the purpose of making the thread disappear. I'm asking nicely, don't play into the hands of someone like this.

Fearandsurprise · 14/10/2018 12:34

Disrespectful The poster is talking about a stepchild, who, from their description, seems to have AGP. Maybe they have it themselves.

RedDogsBeg · 14/10/2018 12:26

Indeed they do, Datun, from everything to the language used to the submissive behaviour demanded.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 14/10/2018 12:23

I am increasingly coming to the belief that this thread is wank fodder for the poster in question.

Datun · 14/10/2018 12:20

Course they didn't RedDogsBeg. And they don't want to be part of the actual woman's club now. They want to dominate the women in that club. For their own gains and validation.

RedDogsBeg · 14/10/2018 12:18

It certainly is Datun, didn't see many men clammering to be part of the 'exclusive' woman club when women couldn't vote, have a bank account, get credit, own property, be paid less, etc., etc.

Datun · 14/10/2018 12:17

I don't believe it's true, for a minute. When I helpfully provided some reassuring links, this poster dismissed them out of hand and was very cross with me for providing them in the first place.

This person can't stand women and contradicts themself every five seconds, because the thrust of their argument is STFU.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 14/10/2018 12:13

Oh, FFS. I, for one, do not believe a word this person says.

Add me to that list. Not one word.