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Number of trans people who are murderers is greater than the number of trans people who are murder victims in UK **Title amended by MNHQ**

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WombOfOnesOwn · 20/10/2017 01:59

This year, the number of murderers who are transgender is higher in the UK than the number of murder victims.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4156440/Transgender-woman-boyfriend-murdered-flatmate.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4997224/Father-two-stabbed-death-transgender-woman.html

And then there's attempted murders and current murderers declaring themselves trans while behind bars:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jailed-killer-who-chopped-testicles-9882176

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-murderer-moved-womens-prison-9770465

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-woman-accused-trying-murder-9569383

www.thesun.co.uk/news/2193637/transgender-female-running-champ-to-be-detained-in-hospital-after-trying-to-murder-top-uk-athletics-official/

Does the fact that MTFs are victimizers in these obscenely violent criminal acts more frequently than they are victims change how lawmakers will see their claims of eternal victimhood? I doubt it. How many male murderers will have to be given elective surgery at taxpayer expense and housed with women (far less likely to be in prison for violent crime) before someone takes a long, hard look at the reality of the situation?

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heresyandwitchcraft · 12/10/2018 23:56

Are you actually a feminist? Because you seem very confused as to what female means, and who should be centered in feminism....

RedDogsBeg · 12/10/2018 23:56

And we are back where we started....

You cannot identify as female.

LemonJello · 12/10/2018 23:56

How are females valued then?

LemonJello · 12/10/2018 23:55

I don’t think a child can be a woman but who knows these days 😂

Feminist4 · 12/10/2018 23:55

Transgender women identify as females and should be valued as such

Feminist4 · 12/10/2018 23:54

Is your child a transgender woman?

RedDogsBeg · 12/10/2018 23:54

You are just getting hyperbolic now. A huge number of men aren't sex offenders we don't let them into female spaces.

Female spaces for females.

FloralBunting · 12/10/2018 23:53

Oops. feminist4 posted before reading my previous post I think. Rant fail to add to the flail.

heresyandwitchcraft · 12/10/2018 23:53

Has anyone called out Bingo yet?

Feminist4 · 12/10/2018 23:52

Who said you were their mum? They would hate to have you as their mum! How would you cope with a transgender child? How would they cope with you? No you clearly don’t care about others in society.

FloralBunting · 12/10/2018 23:51

I identify as a Victorian German U-boat with Victorian values and I shall be sending my children up the chimneys forthwith.

Yes, I have known transsexuals, and I have trans identifying child. And I still put women at the centre of feminism. Which is mean and transphobic of me, and I don't care.

heresyandwitchcraft · 12/10/2018 23:50

If you cannot grasp the significance of wanting a single sex environment when you are naked, being examined intimately, or incarcerated, then God help you. I cannot believe you would compare such situations to going to the cinema or freely mixing in public spaces where everyone is fully clothed.

ALittleBitofVitriol · 12/10/2018 23:44

I. Don't. Care. If. They. Are. Offended.

I'm not their mum with a tissue and hot chocolate.

Grow up.

Feminist4 · 12/10/2018 23:43

Well, there’s a lot wrong with Victorian values. Where shall I start? Claiming that whole communities of people are a threat and ‘different’ for a start. I hear your issue of wanting to allow women to be selective about who should pass the immigration control centre and be allowed to enter women only ‘safe’ spaces. I do not agree with it and I am a woman. But most of all I can’t abide your arguments that seek to condemn transgender women to some hinterland where they cannot be accepted into female society. Do you know any transgender women? Because I do and they are not the potential sex offenders you talk about. Why don’t we have single sex supermarkets and cinemas and ensure we separate male and female children at birth - just in case there is a risk there is a sex offender in our midst.

LemonJello · 12/10/2018 23:42

It is offensive to exclude them

It may be offensive but it’s allowed thanks to the Equality Act 2010. I bet thats offensive too?

Now I gots to go fix me a sasparilla.

Datun · 12/10/2018 23:38

It is offensive to exclude them and quote your bogus statistics

Transwomen confirm to male pattern criminality. Furthermore transwomen with AGP pose a specific threat to women.

You are offended because

2nd rule of misogyny: Women saying no to men is a hate crime.

Unfortunately,
10th rule of misogyny: The worst thing about male violence is that it males men look bad.

Be offended. It's so predicable, it's on the list.

heresyandwitchcraft · 12/10/2018 23:37

LOL. A German U Boat?!

transgender women feminised males. It is offensive to exclude them and quote your bogus statistics.

Transgender women ARE feminine appearing or woman-identifying males. That's what the whole "assigned male at birth" thing actually means, but in strange language.

It is not offensive to exclude males from the category female. It's actually conceptually impossible to include some males in the category female, while excluding others, while retaining some kind of coherent definition. It's been tried a million times. Believe me, they would have re-written the dictionary by now if they could have managed it yet. However much people want to deny reality, males are not the same as females, and never will be. It's the whole bloody point of having sexual reproduction as a species.

Come up with some better statistics, then, if ours are bogus, regarding male pattern violence and trans patterns of crime.

Being offensive is better than lying about important facts.

AngryAttackKittens · 12/10/2018 23:36

I want a steampunk boat! Or maybe a submarine? Always thought it would be awesome to have my very own submarine.

FloralBunting · 12/10/2018 23:34

A Victorian German U-boat. Steampunk for the fucking win.

RedDogsBeg · 12/10/2018 23:33

So now you are scorning and sneering at women for needing to feel safe?

What better ways to keep safe are you recommending?

Provide proof that the statistics are bogus, provide proof that opening the doors of female only spaces to male bodied people will have absolutely no detrimental impact on the females who use those spaces.

Feminist4 · 12/10/2018 23:29

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FloralBunting · 12/10/2018 23:29

Have you got a lot of cut n paste pre-written replies that you are just plonking out? I can see the argument for economy, but you haven't countered anything said to you, or responded to the responses.

Seriously, what is so wrong with being Victorian? You can hide so many useful things under a hoop skirt.

LangCleg · 12/10/2018 23:26

Flail alert! Hostile! Six o'clock! Dive! Dive!

Feminist4 · 12/10/2018 23:26

What? You think transgender women are trying to infiltrate female society to take it over and control it?

Feminist4 · 12/10/2018 23:24

It’s offensive to call transgender women feminised males. It is offensive to exclude them and quote your bogus statistics. It’s as if you feel you are in the Wild West and need to shoot anything that moves- regardless of the harm it does to you - just because you need to feel ‘safe’. There are better ways to keep safe than excluding transgender women.

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