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Number of trans people who are murderers is greater than the number of trans people who are murder victims in UK **Title amended by MNHQ**

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WombOfOnesOwn · 20/10/2017 01:59

This year, the number of murderers who are transgender is higher in the UK than the number of murder victims.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4156440/Transgender-woman-boyfriend-murdered-flatmate.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4997224/Father-two-stabbed-death-transgender-woman.html

And then there's attempted murders and current murderers declaring themselves trans while behind bars:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jailed-killer-who-chopped-testicles-9882176

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-murderer-moved-womens-prison-9770465

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-woman-accused-trying-murder-9569383

www.thesun.co.uk/news/2193637/transgender-female-running-champ-to-be-detained-in-hospital-after-trying-to-murder-top-uk-athletics-official/

Does the fact that MTFs are victimizers in these obscenely violent criminal acts more frequently than they are victims change how lawmakers will see their claims of eternal victimhood? I doubt it. How many male murderers will have to be given elective surgery at taxpayer expense and housed with women (far less likely to be in prison for violent crime) before someone takes a long, hard look at the reality of the situation?

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Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:54

I’m pretty different to you.

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:54

Why does it matter? All women feel different to one another probably.

ALittleBitofVitriol · 13/10/2018 00:53

How do any of you know what it is like to be a transgender woman?

Lol. Do you even read what you type?
How about, how does any male bodied person know what being a woman is really like?

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:52

My daughter does not need treatment. What are you? Some nutter that wants her to have aversion therapy?

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:51

Sorry , predictive text. I meant to say, she is a feminist.

Hyppolyta · 13/10/2018 00:51

Also, if your child is genetically male and suffers due to that you need to ensure they recieve adequate help amd treatment.

Demanding everyone lie to make them happy isnt healthy.

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:50

No, I have three brothers I also have three daughters. My transgender daughter is like my other daughters and less like my brothers. She yearns to be accepted and why not? How do any of you know what it is like to be a transgender woman? Most transgender people say they feel trapped in the wrong body and their wrong body disgusts them. She poses no threat to any of you. She is a demise btw.

ALittleBitofVitriol · 13/10/2018 00:50

It's not a moral judgement to observe physical reality.
It's also not the suffering Olympics. Many people suffer, your child isn't unique in that regard. I won't concede material reality and force vulnerable women and girls to suffer so your child doesn't have to. Because feminism

Hyppolyta · 13/10/2018 00:49

I have not cast judgement.

I just wont accept people trying to force me to believe things I know are untrue.

Neither you or your child can force females to give up their spaces so your child feels validated.

AngryAttackKittens · 13/10/2018 00:48

This has to be my favorite "wait, what?" thread ever in terms of genderist comments.

Woman - I don't want men giving me smear tests.

Genderist - You're a boat! And also a Victorian. Possibly a Victorian boat?

ALittleBitofVitriol · 13/10/2018 00:48

Every post you type is sexist and offensive. That you do it on the FWR board with your username is especially offensive.

Trapped in the wrong body, gentlest, twaw ffs. Bullshit.

FloralBunting · 13/10/2018 00:46

Indeed, Bunbury calls. But what a fabulous night. Well done Posie.

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:44

I think my transgender daughter suffers not feeling a woman in the fullest sense of the word because of groups like this, that try to marginalise her. Of course she is having to overcome physical differences - ones she hates. Hyppolita - what gives you the right to cast judgement on what my daughter is?

heresyandwitchcraft · 13/10/2018 00:43

I agree, this feels like a playbook. I am going to go play Bingo with Bunbury now. This is tedious.

FloralBunting · 13/10/2018 00:42

Have you got a crib sheet there? What's popping out next? Lesbian identifying transgender daughter with a mother who doesn't think women should be able to refuse male bodied people doing intimate exams.

ShamelesslyPlacemarking · 13/10/2018 00:41

Okay, so you think they only believe differently to you because they are ignorant.

Can you accept the possibility there may be some people who are not ignorant of the realities of being a transgender woman who do not believe that transgender women are female in the fullest sense?

Or do people ONLY not believe that transgender women are fully female because of ignorance?

FloralBunting · 13/10/2018 00:40

Oh give over.

Hyppolyta · 13/10/2018 00:40

Again, thats belief. People believe some really strange things.

Thats fine, as long as those beliefs arent forced on others.

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:40

I only mention the gentle to suggest she is not sexually aggressive

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:39

She lives with her female girlfriend (who is not transgender). Her girlfriend is a lesbian and fully accepts her as a woman. They are both lesbians.

LemonJello · 13/10/2018 00:39

My transgender daughter is the gentlest of the three.

If you think being a woman is about being gentle then that explains a lot.

Hyppolyta · 13/10/2018 00:36

I wpuld try and believe if you could explain.

No one is a female trapped in a male body, thats biologically impossible. Like religion, that takes an act of faith to believe.

So sticking to fact not belief, what is the difference between a transwoman and a man?

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:36

A man

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:36

My daughter is not s man

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:35

No, I believe women who don’t believe as I do are ignorant of the realities of being a transgender woman.