Number of trans people who are murderers is greater than the number of trans people who are murder victims in UK **Title amended by MNHQ**

Feminist4

Did your child mention the suicide statistics? Or did you find that out independently?

If it's the former, might I suggest you do some research of your own? Starting with Transgendertrend.

It has to be beneficial to get independent, balanced view point.

Actually, many people choose life-long (or multi-decade medication) because it suits their purposes. Many transgender people do not choose surgery now either, which is where some of the issues begin arising.

Nobody disputes that transgender people face challenges around how they wish to physically present. What is disputed is whether their decision to make physical changes to a greater or lesser degree then gives them the right to access spaces previously reserved exclusively for people of the opposite sex.

Males commit suicide at greater rates than transwomen.

But anyway, yes theres a problem.

So how do you suggest helping males cope with these male issues without it affecting females?

The main ‘crime’ is suicide. Very high in the transgender community.

Needs more old timey clocks and pocket watches, Floral!

It’s up to individual transgender women to come to terms with their own gender. It takes a lot of courage to make the change in such a hostile world. No person would choose life long medication and surgery if it really were a choice. It’s much more deep rooted than that. We tried hard enough to persuade her it might be a phase or a mistake. It’s a horrible situation to feel trapped in the wrong body and know you face a lifetime of abuse. To still be prepared to go ahead with it rather than live a life of pretence is a difficult decision.

Annandale I agree about hormones. I once had the implant and for a week I was evil. I was physically violently angry (at things, not people) for the first time in my life.

It wore off, but I would never have it again, I truly wasnt in control. It baffles me hormones are given so freely with no idea of consequence, and if I recall correctly side effects have been used as an excuse for transwomen commiting violent crimes.

That’s because she’s your child and you have brainwashed her into thinking transgender women are bogeymen

Perhaps it's not that she thinks they're "bogeymen" but simply that she thinks they are males (males are not, by default, bogeymen) and for a wide range of reasons she doesn't want to get changed in front of one.

AAK, how's this?

Feminist4

One schoolgirl per day is raped in school. 60% of school girls have either been sexually harassed or sexual assaulted. 25% of school girls will not speak up in class for fear that it draws attention to them.

Girls have every right to occasionally enjoy the sanctity of a female only space. Without the presence of male bodied people, and certainly with out having to validate them.

I'm quite sure you could support your child, and hold a genuinely feminist viewpoint at the same time. I understand why logic and rationality might disappear, in an effort to empathise with your child. But, in my opinion, it would be worth at least thinking about communicating a little differently.

"Dear daughter of mine, you too are a boat!"

I really think our new friend should try that approach. Or maybe a fighter plane if that sounds cooler.

No, its males fault for commiting male violence and having no respect for females.

Just like your child does when he insists on using female spaces, and takes those away from us.

What crap.

Of theres nothing to be scared of using male spaces, your male child can use them, cant they.

If they refuse you can tell them theyre acting like a nazi 🙄

Maybe my niece could identify as an armored submarine? That might help.

She needs to be educated into realising transgender women are women and not scarey. How does it feel for a person to be in a group that others are scared of. It’s not the transgender woman’s fault. It’s society’s fault.

I hate the idea that anyone hates their own healthy body and would damage it due to that hate. I've certainly taken hormones, and it was a horrible thing to have to do with multiple side effects. I am free from them now, thank God. My husband took lifelong medication, it was awful but he couldn't live without it and indeed when he stopped it he took his own life. The idea that suddenly a huge new group of people require lifelong medication for something that adds a whole lot of new health risks to their lives, but without that medication they will be perfectly healthy - it's extremely hard to accept: not when a very few years ago a tiny proportion of them would have felt the same. As for the surgery - i work on post surgical wards and know some truly amazing surgeons. Any surgery is a huge, huge deal with lifechanging effects and risks; just having the anaesthetic is quite significant. I believe we are coming to the end of the antibiotic era. Will this surgery even be possible in the future?

How do any of you know what it is like to be a transgender woman? Most transgender people say they feel trapped in the wrong body and their wrong body disgusts them.

And some transgender women say they identify as women yet equally accept that they are not, in fact, female in the fullest sense of the word, that there are specific and important differences between themselves and natal women.

Are those transgender women allowed to hold a different belief to the one you have settled on? Or must they, like the ignorant women who do not accept that transgender women are the same as natal women in all ways, and must be treated as natal women in all ways, be educated until they come to the same belief as you?

Nope, its because even at 12 she knows males make sexually aggresive remarks and advances.

And like you, and me, she cant tell the difference between men and transwomen.

Just like German children were taught that Jewish children were filth

My teenaged niece is frightened of using public toilets when transwomen are in them. Nobody told her to be frightened, she just is, because she's already learned that males are a potential danger to her.

Why do her feelings matter less than those of people who ID as trans?

That’s because she’s your child and you have brainwashed her into thinking transgender women are bogeymen

Unreal.

If every woman feels differently to each other, how do transwomen know that what they feel is woman?

Feminist4 do you think it's at all possible that your child might have a disassociative disorder, where they think they can't be non-sexually aggressive and gentle, without identifying as a woman?

No seriously, I think we need a "you're a German U-boat!" meme. Or possibly just "you're a boat!" for brevity's sake.

How many females have had to leave changing rooms and bathrooms because your child was in there?

How on earth do you imagine thats a feminist whem they have no respect for females?

Can I tell you about my daughter now?
My daughter wants to use the loo and changing rooms without males being in there.

Is my daughter allowed that right, or do males get the right to choose?