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Number of trans people who are murderers is greater than the number of trans people who are murder victims in UK **Title amended by MNHQ**

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WombOfOnesOwn · 20/10/2017 01:59

This year, the number of murderers who are transgender is higher in the UK than the number of murder victims.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4156440/Transgender-woman-boyfriend-murdered-flatmate.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4997224/Father-two-stabbed-death-transgender-woman.html

And then there's attempted murders and current murderers declaring themselves trans while behind bars:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jailed-killer-who-chopped-testicles-9882176

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-murderer-moved-womens-prison-9770465

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/transgender-woman-accused-trying-murder-9569383

www.thesun.co.uk/news/2193637/transgender-female-running-champ-to-be-detained-in-hospital-after-trying-to-murder-top-uk-athletics-official/

Does the fact that MTFs are victimizers in these obscenely violent criminal acts more frequently than they are victims change how lawmakers will see their claims of eternal victimhood? I doubt it. How many male murderers will have to be given elective surgery at taxpayer expense and housed with women (far less likely to be in prison for violent crime) before someone takes a long, hard look at the reality of the situation?

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FermatsTheorem · 14/10/2018 10:39

Blimey, a certain poster is now coming across as increasingly unhinged. I think I prefer my fantasy about a sentient aston martin projecting James Bond out of its bucket seats when he makes one sexist remark too many. Has a greater connection to reality too.

Actually, there's a bit of me finding the increasing unhinged-ness quite amusing. [Bad Fermat. Very bad Fermat. Smacks wrist.]

AspieAndProud · 14/10/2018 10:38

The brain is quite often wrong. We have entire fields of psychology devoted to this fact.

Feminist4 · 14/10/2018 10:37

I think therefore I am. It is the confines and definitions established by society that have limited my freedom to define myself in the way I wish.

AspieAndProud · 14/10/2018 10:37

Are you a neurologist?

I identify as one on Thursdays.

Hyppolyta · 14/10/2018 10:37

Feminist the brain of an anorexic will tell them they are fat while they are dangerously underweight.

Are they fat, or is their brain wrong?

Likewise a brain that tells a male they are a woman doesnt make them a woman, anymore than it makes the anorexic fat. The brain is wrong.

Fearandsurprise · 14/10/2018 10:37

F4 So, I get that you believe your brain controls your body.
So what things are the same for both women (born female) and transwomen?

Feminist4 · 14/10/2018 10:35

That is a high number of transgender murder victims.

nottakingthisanymore · 14/10/2018 10:34

How can anyone be a perception of something?

Feminist4 · 14/10/2018 10:32

Are you a neurologist?

Ereshkigal · 14/10/2018 10:32

It has all the key stats re trans murder rates. So in the absence of any other evidence from dissenting posters here, it stands, and the argument is over.

Ereshkigal · 14/10/2018 10:31

Will starve from this point on but can I just post a link to this excellent well argued and researched thread that I was searching for the other day and have just found. Also further down some furry fuckwit tries to "debunk" his analysis and the guy comes back and demolishes the furry.

twitter.com/AdrianLSullivan/status/1025472694895169537?s=20

Datun · 14/10/2018 10:24

I am my brain’s perception of who I am

Don't be silly.

Datun · 14/10/2018 10:24

My brain controls my body, not the other way around

And a male body will have a male brain. 100% male DNA in every cell.

nottakingthisanymore · 14/10/2018 10:23

I will happily admit that I am confused! My brain controls my body in that it tells my feet when to walk etc but my brain is the same as any body else’s. I have a personality that has developed and changed over the years and will evolve continuously. I don’t understand how my brain makes me a woman. Genuinely don’t.

Feminist4 · 14/10/2018 10:21

No, because the world's perception of who we are is different. That doesn't make their perception correct

Feminist4 · 14/10/2018 10:20

I am my brain’s perception of who I am

Hyppolyta · 14/10/2018 10:19

Feminist being female is not a case of thinking you are one.

Its a physical reality.

If you evidence once can change sex them go tell the girls having their genitals mutilated, the women stoned to death, the women bleeding in menstrual huts that they can just not be female and all is fine.

Rather than convince us, you can go save thousands of lives. Off you pop, let us know when youre done.

Fearandsurprise · 14/10/2018 10:16

Feminist4 So if it is all about thoughts/feelings, what thoughts/feelings in common do a woman (born as a woman) and a transwoman have?

Feminist4 · 14/10/2018 10:09

My brain controls my body, not the other way around. 99% of who I am is defined by my thinking and not my body.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 14/10/2018 10:08

The thread had some interesting and helpful rebuttals but can we just starve oxygen now, please

Yes. Please.

FermatsTheorem · 14/10/2018 10:06

And may I say I welcome your AM-fluidity, Disrespectful.

It has also started my (cold-stuffed) brain trundling along a most pleasing if slightly surreal fantasy in which Q is female and designs all Bond's tech to undermine his sexism. I think there's a novel, or at least a fanfic, in there.

LangCleg · 14/10/2018 10:04

We've passed the flailing stage and entered pissing up the wall because we can stage.

The thread had some interesting and helpful rebuttals but can we just starve oxygen now, please?

Fearandsurprise · 14/10/2018 10:01

Feminist4 Could we talk about similarities instead of differences?
Could you explain the common features between women (who are born women) and transwomen?

I am trying to explain this to someone with Austistm whI is finding all this rather distressing and no one has been able to give an explanation. Being told “because they feel like a woman” just gets the question “but what does a woman feel like”?

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 14/10/2018 09:51

I would like to know whether she's a Vantage or your classic Goldfinger style DB5

Good question! I am AM-fluid. Grin

Feminist4 · 14/10/2018 09:44

Btw. I’m not posting here to change your minds. You are brainwashed with false arguments and data. But so the transgender community can see that there are feminists who fight with them against discrimination and prejudice.

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