17 year old girl sexually assaulted multiple times

I’m not wasting any more time squabbling about this when violence against women and children by men is going on right now.

It's not fucking everywhere to the same degree. Are you honestly saying it is? I've no idea of the background of these horrible men - but abuse against females is not the same worldwide. I find that claim naive and insulting.

It’s not about being nice. It’s about the fact that is a world wide issue, why focus on a small group -immigrants (and a specific group of immigrants as it turns out)?
It’s minimising what way too many women go through daily in the UK by going all “oh but were they British”?

My best friend was raped repeatedly by her father.. he was an American.
Another good friend was severely abused and raped by her then partner..he was English.
Another friend was again abused,beaten and raped by her husband..he was Chinese.
A childhood acquaintance was turned into prostitution by another man.. he was Spanish.
I’ve had incidents with English, Romanian , Albanian and fuck knows what else(especially when clubbing) men.

It’s fucking everywhere.

It’s certainly a male problem. That is undeniable though often ignored. But it is extremely disingenuous to deny that these events occur more in some cultures than others and not racist to suggest that there may be some groups of men who are even more violent towards women than others.

If we are to break the patriarchy nothing can be off-limits. We can’t afford to be nice.

I read the report about this on a Facebook link from a scummy tabloid. In the comments a woman said that the girl shouldn't have been clubbing as she was 17 so it wasn't these men's fault.

I nearly smashed my phone as I self combusted. Rape culture and victim blaming at its finest

It doesn't happen to the same degree - what countries have you lived in?

Ofc it will change, due to laws, sentencing, societal view etc. What doesn’t change though is that it still happens in every country in the world, regardless of those factors, which makes it a male problem not a regional problem.

Rebel - you are blind if you think sexual abuse/harassment doesn't change depending on the country. Are you telling me I'm not allowed to say that what i experienced in the middle east in a short period of time is not what I experienced in 40 yrs in the UK?

@bambambini there is a thread in here about sexual abuse/harassment. A lot of the perpetrators are British .
Stop trying to make this about race/ nationality.
Women and children all around the globe are being abused,raped,murdered and harassed daily. It’s a male problem.

The difference is i've lived and spent time in countries where the level of harassment and assault from strangers at street/public transport etc level is horrendous - nothing like what I've experienced in the UK. This poor girls experience reminded me of what I've experienced to a lesser degree (thankfully) elsewhere. We've had an influx of young men from areas that often treat females badly - i have wondered if there has been an increase in this type of harassment/assault. I guess we'll never know if we aren't allowed to consider it.

Not to the girl but it possibly could matter in dealing with these attacks and could matter to other girls and women.

@bambambini do you really think it makes a difference to the girl what the attackers nationality is?

I'd like to know the background of the men - if they are british or immigrants. I've lived 45 yrs in the UK and a year in the likes of Turkey and Egypt where the level of harassment and assault was ridiculous.

I’ve read about half last night but got annoyed by the constant derailing and the insistence that NAMALT.
We fucking know that,but no matter how awful the case and how broken the woman/girl we must make sure men’s feelz are protected.

Can you link it please?

Now i need to find thw thread.

oh good

The thread is being reinstated, according to Site Stuff.